What's going on in this Ron Paul Picture?

lol. So you don't mind eating an animal that is raised for death, but you do mind when an animal is hunted? It makes no sense. Does it bother you when a tiger kills its prey?

Ideally, I would want to get to the point where I eat no meat at all just like many people want to get to the point where they don't bite their fingernails but keep biting anyways. It's a work in progress but (especially after this discussion) I will be back on the right track.

And I don't get bothered by tigers killing prey. It's what they're naturally designed to do.

But while the Ron Paul movement has opened many eyes to many truths, I will give anyone who is reading this right now another secret that the MSM has kept from you: we are not designed to eat meat. We are no more designed to eat meat than a wrench is designed to knock in a nail. If there is no other tool available, the wrench might get the job done just like if there is no other food around, meat will give you energy. Meat is an acidic producing food which horrible to the body.

If you bother to read books like

"The pH Miracle: Balance Your Diet, Reclaim Your Health"
"Alkalize or Die"
"The Acid Alkaline Balance"
"The pH Miracle for weightloss"
"The pH Miracle for Diabetes"
"Sick and Tired"

you will stumble upon a theory that is backed by nobel prize winning people and censored by the MSM. What I'm about to say is revolutionary but hopefully after you've seen what the MSM has done to Ron Paul, you'll be more open minded (and a little curious):

What if I told you that there already are cures to diseases like cancer and diabetes that drug companies, to protect their profits, have done everything to keep you from knowing about?

Would you think I was a kook? Hopefully, you're more open minded than that.
 
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I don't like hunters :mad: and this is the one picture I've seen of Ron Paul that paints him in a bad light (well, to me at least).

I agree. Guns are NOT here for hunting, they are here to defend Liberty. I hardly see how getting up at 3am, eating a full plate of piping hot food and then leaving on a full stomach to kill some food with a high powered rifle, while warm as shit in your custom made hi tech clothes and then coming home to a hot meal... why should this be protected?

I'm not saying people can't eat meat or whatever, by all means... that is up to you, but killing for sport/food/etc should be on an AS NEEDED basis.
 
The woman in the picture is Kim Chicoine. She is the wife of NH State Coordinator Jared Chicoine, and one of the sweetest/coolest chicks you'll ever meet in your life. And she is a kick ass hunter.
 
Would have sucked to be you in archaic times.

We are not in those times. And I think that is the point. If I was starving and I couldn't already feed myself off of the land, I would hunt--clearly we live in a time where killing isn't necessary to survive.
 
No antlers kiddies. This aint legal in any state I know of to hunt. This is roadkill most likely.

He must be checking it to make sure it is dead so they dont have to mercy kill it, or try taking it to a vet.
 
We are not in those times. And I think that is the point. If I was starving and I couldn't already feed myself off of the land, I would hunt--clearly we live in a time where killing isn't necessary to survive.

oh really, guess you never had a hamburger

What do you think about fishing? Is a deer's life more valuable then a fish(to you)?

Don't even tell me you think fishing/crabbin'/froggin'/crawfish'n/ect is not acceptable in this day and age.. maybe, maybe I could live without meat but seafood, no way Eat Seafood or Die! for me :)
 
oh really, guess you never had a hamburger

What do you think about fishing? Is a deer's life more valuable then a fish(to you)?

Don't even tell me you think fishing/crabbin'/froggin'/crawfish'n/ect is not acceptable in this day and age.. maybe, maybe I could live without meat but seafood, no way Eat Seafood or Die! for me :)

This is because you see us as humans and them as animals. I have had a hamburger. I don't eat meat anymore. Try this, and I'm not saying that I'm here to stop you from doing you... but work with me here:

Think about us all as... ready for it... "EARTHLINGS"

Living creatures all have the same BASIC needs, desires, etc.. and they are:

Freedom to move, Freedom from pain, Freedom from suffering, They nurture, they care for their young, when their young go missing, do they not weep? Serious question. You ever seen an animal standing on the side of the road while it's parent was laying dead in the middle of the road? Do you think it is feeling any less pain than you or I?

To me this is the easiest choice I have ever made.

Pro Life means ALL LIFE.
Pro Choice means ALL LIFE.

If you are PRO WAR, you are PRO CHOICE.
If you are PRO LIFE, you are ANTI WAR.

If you eat MEAT, you are PRO CHOICE.
If you don't eat MEAT, you are PRO LIFE.

Simple as that. You cannot be pro life and pro war. War causes death.

The next argument will be that God put them here, so they must be food. Actually, God said that we could eat of ANY TREE, ANYTHING PUT HERE THAT COULD BE GROWN. Except for ONE TREE. Adam and Eve didn't eat meat. So it stands to reason, our teeth and our inner organs haven't evolved very much if you believe in the bible timeline... I personally think it's a crock of shit, but hey.

1. Meat causes cancer
2. Your body isn't made to break down solid proteins
3. Your teeth are flat, not sharp and pointed
4. You can EASILY live a healthier lifestyle, cheaply and effectively without meat
5. Hitler wasn't a vegan or vegetarian, for whenever someone brings that shit into the argument... it's coming, so lets get that out there right now.
6. Your pancreas is CONSTANTLY fighting cancers, it's what the organ DOES for you. Meat slows this down, and this is why meat eaters get 90% of the cancers.
7. Meat has additives, hormones, and steroids...

8. don't believe it, look at the next 13 year old girl with DD cup size
 
I don't like hunters :mad: and this is the one picture I've seen of Ron Paul that paints him in a bad light (well, to me at least).

Hunters are part of the natural life cycle. Those of us who abstain from being hunter/gatherer/farmers (me included) will suffer in one way or another. For me, the processed packaged junk will kill me down the road.
 
This is because you see us as humans and them as animals. I have had a hamburger. I don't eat meat anymore. Try this, and I'm not saying that I'm here to stop you from doing you... but work with me here:

Think about us all as... ready for it... "EARTHLINGS"

Living creatures all have the same BASIC needs, desires, etc.. and they are:

Freedom to move, Freedom from pain, Freedom from suffering, They nurture, they care for their young, when their young go missing, do they not weep? Serious question. You ever seen an animal standing on the side of the road while it's parent was laying dead in the middle of the road? Do you think it is feeling any less pain than you or I?

To me this is the easiest choice I have ever made.

Pro Life means ALL LIFE.
Pro Choice means ALL LIFE.


If you are PRO WAR, you are PRO CHOICE.
If you are PRO LIFE, you are ANTI WAR.

If you eat MEAT, you are PRO CHOICE.
If you don't eat MEAT, you are PRO LIFE.

Simple as that. You cannot be pro life and pro war. War causes death.

The next argument will be that God put them here, so they must be food. Actually, God said that we could eat of ANY TREE, ANYTHING PUT HERE THAT COULD BE GROWN. Except for ONE TREE. Adam and Eve didn't eat meat. So it stands to reason, our teeth and our inner organs haven't evolved very much if you believe in the bible timeline... I personally think it's a crock of shit, but hey.

1. Meat causes cancer
2. Your body isn't made to break down solid proteins
3. Your teeth are flat, not sharp and pointed
4. You can EASILY live a healthier lifestyle, cheaply and effectively without meat
5. Hitler wasn't a vegan or vegetarian, for whenever someone brings that shit into the argument... it's coming, so lets get that out there right now.
6. Your pancreas is CONSTANTLY fighting cancers, it's what the organ DOES for you. Meat slows this down, and this is why meat eaters get 90% of the cancers.
7. Meat has additives, hormones, and steroids...

8. don't believe it, look at the next 13 year old girl with DD cup size

First off,(my views) We are all animals. In reality no living creature has any more value then any other including us. Lets say a cricket just died and at the same time a human, they are equal. No I'm not atheist, I believe "life" goes on after death, or should I say our consciousness goes on. We are all connected, we are all 'one'. We are God. We are God experiencing "himself" on many different levels. Ok, enough of the craziness rant, right? lol you try Dimethyltryptamine(DMT)(out-of-body inducing chemical) multiply times and see if you see it any different. Anyways, We(animals) are all equal for we live off of other animals(energy), that is the way it's suppose to be, notice nature(wild).

You said all life has the same basic needs, and that is what I'm saying. We Eat. We All Eat what we choose(as species). If we are all Equal then it doesn't matter who/what we eat. If a animal eats me, then so be it. I will value my life more then the animal at the time and will fight it, but if he eats me then I accept it as part of the process and pass my energy here on to him. My consciousness will live on and will keep experiencing.

You said:
"God said that we could eat of ANY TREE, ANYTHING PUT HERE THAT COULD BE GROWN."

That is only if you believe in a "written word" of the christian god. There are many other "religions" you know. I don't really consider myself part of any organized religion but if I had to put my self into a group, it would be buddhism/new age.

And about meat being unhealthy, well you can say that about almost anything today. Water can be unhealthy, hell water can kill you if you drink too much. If I ate lettuce all day nonstop, that would be unhealthy. So would be eating alot of meat.

ok, enough of my ranting :D
 
I don't fish, no. Anything that is living and breathing, be it air, or water, I will not eat. If there is suffering, or I cannot disprove the suffering, I will not eat it.

What is the matter with protecting all sentient beings? Lastly, I do not value my life above any other living creature. We all eat, but saying that we MUST EAT MEAT is not correct. I haven't eaten meat in years now, and won't be anytime soon. I live off of the land, and am quite healthy. Food doesn't have to be processed or packaged, and I understand preserving tradition. I know how to fire a weapon, and if someone ever tries to harm me, believe I will. But until my life or freedom is in danger, it's peace for me.

That said, I understand that other people will do what they will... I'm not here to tell you not to do it, simply what the consequences of doing it are... cancer, death, etc...

If you live on a diet of natural foods, with no meat or dairy, expect to live longer, barring some disaster. And trust me, my food doesn't taste bland and tasteless. You'll miss meat for about 2 weeks. After that, you'll start feeling so good about yourself and your body will feel so great, you'll wonder quite honestly how you ever ate meat.
 
"Divide and Conquer"
we all need to find areas were we disagree so we can't work together to change this country. We should all be fighting about who the best quarterback in NFL history was, if gay people should marry or if people should eat animals. For reals guys Does this post not look like a set up to create riffs between supporters.
 
Its really hard not to take bait on this one . I will hold my tung for now but later I am going to a food forum to bash either vegetarians or meat eaters.
 
"Divide and Conquer"
we all need to find areas were we disagree so we can't work together to change this country. We should all be fighting about who the best quarterback in NFL history was, if gay people should marry or if people should eat animals. For reals guys Does this post not look like a set up to create riffs between supporters.

no, nothing wrong with having a little debate here.. We all don't have to agree on everything. I think if we all agreed on everything here, we wouldn't be fighting for the Freedom message here. The Freedom message will bring in lots with different views.
 
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