What should Ron Paul do now? - Poll
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if of roughly of 1000+ people some 2/5ths want him to go 3rd party,
and 2/5ths feel comfortable with working inside the G.O.P for good
or ill, are we surprised if the last fifth is consisting of people who are
pro-Obama, and a lesser number, namely roughly 40+ people are
Bob Barr people? there were also the other options... to a lesser degree!
and 2/5ths feel comfortable with working inside the G.O.P for good
or ill, are we surprised if the last fifth is consisting of people who are
pro-Obama, and a lesser number, namely roughly 40+ people are
Bob Barr people? there were also the other options... to a lesser degree!
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If you are planning on voting for obama...you were never a true Ron Paul supporter. Maybe you are a college student yourself...and when Obama became more trendy than Ron Paul...you decided to go that way.
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That's a good way of protecting yourself from that bitter feeling.
Truth is I brought many, many people to this movement, and I've been a libertarian most my life. Newcomers having the audacity to tell me who and what I supported based on trends.
No, I've liked Obama since I read his book a few years ago... I never hid that, or the fact that I was not a RP absolutist. But I would have loved to see him win the nomination, and I would have supported RP if he did.
Trendiness in fact wins elections, soak it up. If you think your comment has any validity, your one of the uninformed.
And I am about 2 years out of college now... graduating in 2006.
In another 3 years I'll be out again, so you can be valid again.
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Frankly, if you really adhere to Ron Paul's economic policies, you will recognize that Barack Hussein Obama is worse than John McCain, though not by much.
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Kade
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I don't adhere to Ron Paul's economic policies. I like him for his view on civil liberties. Need I stress that again for you?
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I'll give you an example. I saw my neighbor squatting in his yard with his pants down around his ankles yesterday.
I asked him what he was doing. He said he's pooping in a groundhog hole. He said he read online that it would confuse the groundhog & make it think that some other animal had claimed its lair.
The fact that this person is usually sane is the only reason I refrained from calling the police.
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socialist?
i dont get how you could like obamas economic policies and not be a socialist at heart.
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I'm a realist.
I like the market economy. I hate corporate bailouts and subsidies.
I tolerate social programs because a wealthy nation can afford them, but I prefer strong limitations.
My position is not extreme.
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So a thought crossed your neighbors mind.
Must have been a long and lonely journey...
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Kade, I hate to crush your ego but I don't have time to read through prior posts and was frankly unaware of your view.
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Yeah, ok, but you're missing the point.
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How is Obama the peace/anti-war candidate?
"The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be to eliminate this threat," Obama said in a speech to a conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a pro-Israel lobby group.
"I will do everything in my power to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon -- everything," he said to a standing ovation.
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSWAT00959220080604
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www.barackobama.com
Obama: Expand the wars -- starting with Pakistan
"The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan."
"So the second step in my strategy will be to build our capacity and our partnerships to track down, capture or kill terrorists around the world."
"... take down terrorist networks from the remote islands of Indonesia, to the sprawling cities of Africa."
http://www.barackobama.com/2007/08/01/the_war_we_need_to_win.php
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Will Obama Stand Up to the War Party?
Don't bet the ranch on it
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12942
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Cindy Sheehan Salutes Ron Paul and Exposes Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptu81SGQfLw
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Obama plans to scale the wars up, not down.
His economic policies are just as bad if not worse than McCain's.
What is comes down to is the illusion of choice.
I don't see any real differences between the two, and both seem intent on ensuring an economic collapse.
"The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be to eliminate this threat," Obama said in a speech to a conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a pro-Israel lobby group.
"I will do everything in my power to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon -- everything," he said to a standing ovation.
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSWAT00959220080604
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www.barackobama.com
Obama: Expand the wars -- starting with Pakistan
"The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan."
"So the second step in my strategy will be to build our capacity and our partnerships to track down, capture or kill terrorists around the world."
"... take down terrorist networks from the remote islands of Indonesia, to the sprawling cities of Africa."
http://www.barackobama.com/2007/08/01/the_war_we_need_to_win.php
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Will Obama Stand Up to the War Party?
Don't bet the ranch on it
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12942
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Cindy Sheehan Salutes Ron Paul and Exposes Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptu81SGQfLw
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Obama plans to scale the wars up, not down.
His economic policies are just as bad if not worse than McCain's.
What is comes down to is the illusion of choice.
I don't see any real differences between the two, and both seem intent on ensuring an economic collapse.
Thomas Paine
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In short, Barack Hussein Obama is nothing more than a puppet having his strings pulled.
Originally Posted by Kade
If Ron's out of the race... Why are there still so many TROLLS here?
Nah, just with Ron out of the race, there's just not that much to talk about anymore.
If Ron's out of the race... Why are there still so many TROLLS here?
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I've always supported the idea of an independent run, but it's very unlikely at this point. Not impossible, but unlikely. After all, the avenue to a third party run of some sort is still not entirely closed: Dr. Paul could take Bob Barr as VP and use the Libertarian Party, while Chuck Baldwin would also likely step aside for him. Having Ron Paul on the ballot in November is the only thing that can keep this movement solidly unified.
Otherwise, we will have a lot more work to do to keep a semblance of it together. The ideas are generally the same among all of us--it's the methods that are causing divergence. Barr, Baldwin, Obama; bolster an existing third party, found a new one, or stay in the GOP...these are the disagreements we face. And as this interesting poll shows, we're chopped up pretty well.
In lieu of no Dr. Paul in November, I just hope we figure out some way to keep this thing together. I think we can, as long as it doesn't get nasty between the would-be Paulite factions. Though Ron Paul himself issuing some marching orders, or at least big hints about where to go next would help...
By the way, the same page with the poll mentions a major announcement from Ron Paul due next week. Anyone know if this is true?
Otherwise, we will have a lot more work to do to keep a semblance of it together. The ideas are generally the same among all of us--it's the methods that are causing divergence. Barr, Baldwin, Obama; bolster an existing third party, found a new one, or stay in the GOP...these are the disagreements we face. And as this interesting poll shows, we're chopped up pretty well.
In lieu of no Dr. Paul in November, I just hope we figure out some way to keep this thing together. I think we can, as long as it doesn't get nasty between the would-be Paulite factions. Though Ron Paul himself issuing some marching orders, or at least big hints about where to go next would help...
By the way, the same page with the poll mentions a major announcement from Ron Paul due next week. Anyone know if this is true?
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