What Really Happened - Just found this article on DailyPaul

[scotto2008]

@ the bold. - Excuse me, WTF did you just say?

Seriously what the f--k. "To be fair to the party leaders" O-M-F-G! How has anything you mentioned, back that logic up? How has it got anything to do with their deceitful and devious actions? Did you even read what happened? Have you accepted it as reality?
ignorance or stupidity? Yea, it is a fken conspiracy - conspiracy FACT. Nothing theoretical here, first hand accounts of what went down. Geezus fken christ, WAKE UP! </anger at wilful ignorance>

To be fair to Jason... I don't think he meant to say anything inflammatory. Maybe he was just thinking aloud and didn't consider his words carefully. A forum is an appropriate place for that, no?

Lighten up you guys. Have a cup of decaf.

 

[lvp1138]

They will, and I expect them to be pissed off.

Am I alone in wanting footage or audio of this convention?

Oh we are pissed... and WE WILL be there. All those I met in Reno are already planning ahead, rearrenging schedules, already starting to get pricing on buses, etc.

I am in Las Vegas. I have already made my house available for 7 to 9 people from Northern Nevada to stay with me. And hundreds more will do the same.

We, Clark County delegates (Las Vegas and southern Nevada), will be there in full force, and we are bringing everyone else from the rest of Nevada here. Buses. We'll chip in for plane tickets. Food. EVERYTHING.

If they think they can derail us, they are wrong. Very wrong.

An organized force is something to not mess around with.

 

[Athan]

The folks in Nevada should vote out as many non-Ron Paul Republican candidates as retaliation.

 

[jasonhlasvegas2008]

with a completely different agenda, and motivated more by ideology than self-interest. It is a completely different dynamic, and I think it scares them.
completely different? how so? fiscal conservatism perhaps?

"more motivated by ideology than self-interest?"

readers, notice the words used here, "agenda, ideology" this poster speaks of the RP supporters as if they were the terrists.

I am just trying to look at things from the establishement's perspective. The Nevada State GOP was shocked by the strong support of amending the unfair rules, and using a democratic process to send delegates to the national convention. The party insiders complained bitterly of Ron Paul supporters disregarding "custom". I kept hearing them say this "isn't the way we normally do things". Now, this isn't a statement I agree with, I am just relaying the impression that the establishment seemed confused, and scared. I can understand why they overreacted and shut down the convention. What we did on Saturday was unprecedented in our state's Republican Party political history. I should not have used the phrase, 'to be fair'. Because by all evidence I have seen they did shut down the convention to thwart supporters of Ron Paul from participating in the process.

they were motivated by their self-interest, a better country through a better president. not "ideology" as you suggest.

I didn't mean to say anything other than some party leaders and insiders seem to be in it for themselves, not for love of country. The Ron Paul supporters along with hundreds of McCain and Romney supporters voted with us in rejecting the unfair rules. This created a completely different crowd psychology that stands in stark contrast to the way the Nevada State GOP has operated before. It's more of an observation...I'm not really concluding or suggesting anything.

The folks in Nevada should vote out as many non-Ron Paul Republican candidates as retaliation.

All the State GOP needs to do is conduct a fair convention. If they succeed in doing this they will gain the support of the Ron Paul faction for local and state elections. Their behavior at the convention, however, does not bode well for the future.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Oh we are pissed... and WE WILL be there. All those I met in Reno are already planning ahead, rearrenging schedules, already starting to get pricing on buses, etc.

I am in Las Vegas. I have already made my house available for 7 to 9 people from Northern Nevada to stay with me. And hundreds more will do the same.

We, Clark County delegates (Las Vegas and southern Nevada), will be there in full force, and we are bringing everyone else from the rest of Nevada here. Buses. We'll chip in for plane tickets. Food. EVERYTHING.

If they think they can derail us, they are wrong. Very wrong.

An organized force is something to not mess around with.

Well, We all know what happen with the NV GOP party and their "MIXING-UP THE VOTING PLACES AND TIMES during the CAUCUS.

DO NOT under-estimate the corrupt Nevada GOP party and their "INSIDERS"... they will have some 'Circus Stunts' ready for LAS VEGAS' reconvene.

I hope the media covers this correctly, the GOP, may stack that deck too. I wonder what that Silver-Tongued Devils; Mitt "Manchurian" Romney has sent out in marching orders for McCain support/votes?

NOT ALL IS QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT!

 

[jasonhlasvegas2008]

The media is not covering this accurately.

We need to get the message out that State GOP leadership disrupted a Ron Paul sweep by abruptly ending the convention.

Right now I just saw the CNN clip on Ron Paul and the first thing he said was, and I am paraphrasing here, "Hey your supporters just disrupted the Nevada State Convention."

 

[lvp1138]

The media is not covering this accurately.

We need to get the message out that State GOP leadership disrupted a Ron Paul sweep by abruptly ending the convention.

Right now I just saw the CNN clip on Ron Paul and the first thing he said was, and I am paraphrasing here, "Hey your supporters just disrupted the Nevada State Convention."

That is correct... the news lady on 106.5 this morning kept repeating "loud ron paul supporters shut down the convention" every 15 minutes. That was her headline.

I emailed in and tried to call in, but well, I couldn't accomplish them to get it corrected...

We are being blamed for this. And it is not our fault that it got delayed.

 

[hawks4ronpaul]

That is correct... the news lady on 106.5 this morning kept repeating "loud ron paul supporters shut down the convention" every 15 minutes. That was her headline.

I emailed in and tried to call in, but well, I couldn't accomplish them to get it corrected...

We are being blamed for this. And it is not our fault that it got delayed.

Can we confirm that the party apparatchiks filibustered with videos and speeches to run out the clock?

Were those videos and speeches on the schedule?

The story is that the national party is trying to railroad Nevada Republicans and shove McCain down their throats even though McCain lost to Paul in January, when Nevada voters preferred Ron Paul.

"Framing" the story is why fast press releases matter so much. Be the first to frame the story.


http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

 

[jasonhlasvegas2008]

Can we confirm that the party apparatchiks filibustered with videos and speeches to run out the clock?

Were those videos and speeches on the schedule?

The story is that the national party is trying to railroad Nevada Republicans and shove McCain down their throats even though McCain lost to Paul in January, when Nevada voters preferred Ron Paul.

"Framing" the story is why fast press releases matter so much. Be the first to frame the story.


http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

Delegates were given a trimmed down agenda. The entire agenda was never distributed. I believe we never got around to approving any agenda whatsoever because the fight for the rules lasted so long.

They had trouble counting the votes for one of the congressional districts. This was the cause for the delay.

The reason why the leadership's excuse is disingenuous is that when the Nevada State GOP leadership followed a policy of "cut and run" and hightailed it out of the convention room Ron Paul supporters were able to negotiate with the Hotel an extension to use the room for 3 more hours. The State GOP made no effort to extend the use of the room.

Also, there was no vote on whether or not the convention should recess indefinitely, and I am told this is not possible under Robert's Rules of Order, and I personally cannot remember anything in the Rules we passed that said we could recess indefinitely without a vote.

At this point about half the room left, and we no longer had a quorum to continue business.

Also, I heard the State GOP had booked the room for the next day, but I cannot confirm this.

 

[Zera]

I sincerely hope all Ron Paul supporting delegates get to Las Vegas easily. I know they're way more dedicated than the McCainites, but still. Actually, for that reason, this may give us an upper hand... Anyway, let's hope for the best.

 

[JustBcuz]

I sincerely hope all Ron Paul supporting delegates get to Las Vegas easily. I know they're way more dedicated than the McCainites, but still. Actually, for that reason, this may give us an upper hand... Anyway, let's hope for the best.

Just a head's up: Round Two may not be re convening in Las Vegas, but once again in Reno, as per State GOP by-laws.

This is from my email box:

Bob Beers was just on 720am, and stated that the convention will probably be in Reno again per party bylaws. This is by no means final, but we need to start clearing our schedules, and preparing to either help those in the North, or prep for our own travel and lodgings from the south.

I've had several people offer up their rental properties should it be here, and I'm sure the Northern contingient is working on similar accomidations up there.

Again focus on the task, which will be to get EVERY delegate back to the re-convention, ready to get down to business.

 

[Rangeley]

Then again, he hasnt shown much regard for the rules up to this point...

 

[agaiziunas]

Gonna repeat this in Illinois for the at large delegates. Can't wait.

 

[jabrownie]

Why didn't somebody make a motion to call the question and just dispense with the filibustering? Perhaps consider keeping it in the bag o' tricks for your next get together.

 

[speciallyblend]

keep up the great work nevada.