What passes for "Debate" in Murica's colleges these days

[Todd]

This is absolutely ridiculous. My debate teacher from high school would roll over in her grave.

From Peter Schiff:

The 2014 Cross Examination Debate Association's national championship was held at Indiana University. The all African American female team from Towson University defeated the all African American male team from the University of Oklahoma. Though this might be a first for African American women, it is not a real win for women or African Americans, but a loss for collegiate debate specifically and America in general. I am not sure what the winners won, but it certainly wasn't a debate. In fact, to enable this hallow victory, the very concept of debate was thrown aside. In the name of political correctness and affirmative action, we have destroyed college debate, simply to bestow a meaningless trophy on students who demonstrate no actual debate skills. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. However it provides a shocking example as to why America is a nation in decline.

Link to full debate here -- just in case you think I left out the good parts. Trust me, there are no good parts. Notice how comments have been disabled!
Note, the original video above was censored due to a BS copyright complaint from the videographer. Fortunately, others reposted it. http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=47439

See this glowing and hilarious write up on the "debate" from the Atlantic, "Hacking Traditional College Debate's White-Privilege Problem."

Here's an excerpt:

Joe Leeson Schatz, Director of Speech and Debate at Binghamton University, is encouraged by the changes in debate style and community. “Finally, there’s a recognition in the academic space that the way argument has taken place in the past privileges certain types of people over others,” he said. “Arguments don’t necessarily have to be backed up by professors or written papers. They can come from lived experience.”

But other teams who have prepared for a traditional policy debate are frustrated when they encounter a meta-debate, or an alternative stylistic approach in competition. These teams say that the pedagogical goals of policy debate are not being met—and are even being undermined. Aaron Hardy, who coaches debate at Northwestern University, is concerned about where the field is headed. “We end up … with a large percentage of debates being devoted to arguing about the rules, rather than anything substantive,” he wrote on a CEDA message board last fall.
Logic and reason has no place in Murica's colleges. All that matters is how you "feel" about an issue. It's hard to believe people actually pay for this garbage.

 

[nayjevin]

Something else is going on here.

 

[Todd]

Something else is going on here.

I'm not sure what it is. My 6th grade lunch room debates with friends were more intellectual and polished than this rubbish. You could also understand our arguments better and we had food in our mouths.

 

[CPUd]

Explained:

 

[PaulConventionWV]

OH... MY... GOD.

They said "nigga", but it's okay because they're black and they're using it ironically. That stuttering? Dramatic effect. This is what liberals have turned debates into. Reason and logic? Things of the past. Let's go with yelling and stuttering while having a seizure.

 

[Matthew5]

By the way, y'all are just racist.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

By the way, y'all are just racist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pij5Sg4_DY

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[aGameOfThrones]

W.. A,a,a,A. T... A, a, a. F... A, a, a. Ya, ya, ya. Chocolate covered watermelons!

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Something else is going on here.

What else could possibly be going on here?

 

[Matthew5]

I skimmed through the full debate video...when the other team got called out for going over time, he began to rant, "does time even exist?"

Yeah, so this is the caliber of intelligence we're dealing with here.

 

[nayjevin]

What else could possibly be going on here?

Explained:

That this is how debaters debate nowadays. It wasn't just a coincidence that they all tried to say more words instead of better words. That no one can understand white debaters either. I also suspected troll though, cause she was pretty articulate on the news show.

 

[juleswin]

Explained:

That explained a lot. It would have been fair if Peter would have shown the clips of the side that was defeated, it is incomplete to just say "just look at who won the debate" without showing who they defeated. My guess is that their opponent was equally as ridiculous as the winners if not more.

I hope this discussion brings about change cos I really loved watching high school debate.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Tourette's syndrome?

 

[aGameOfThrones]

By the way, y'all are just racist.

 

[Todd]

That this is how debaters debate nowadays. It wasn't just a coincidence that they all tried to say more words instead of better words. That no one can understand white debaters either. I also suspected troll though, cause she was pretty articulate on the news show.

Not all HS debates use this style. I have seen several where people actually talk in conversational tones.

 

[cajuncocoa]

By the way, y'all are just racist.

Goes without saying whenever a non-white person is criticized, no matter how deserving.

 

[Matthew5]

I kinda wish Presidential debates were done in this style. Their malarkey would be even less coherent.

 

[cajuncocoa]

I kinda wish Presidential debates were done in this style. Their malarkey would be even less coherent.

Now that ​would be entertaining!! LOL

 

[PaulConventionWV]

That this is how debaters debate nowadays. It wasn't just a coincidence that they all tried to say more words instead of better words. That no one can understand white debaters either. I also suspected troll though, cause she was pretty articulate on the news show.

Correction: This is how liberal debaters debate nowadays. I don't debate that way. You don't debate that way. Reasonable people don't debate that way. That video makes it absolutely no clearer to me what's going on here because it's just as ludicrous with the explanation as without. Since when was debate about fitting as many words as possible into a given amount of time?

 

[Todd]

By the way, y'all are just racist.

Why didn't he talk like an auctioneer, hiccup, and condense his defense video to 2 minutes.