What is your political ideology?

[Christian Liberty]

I think it should be handled at the most local level possible. I think the federal government should be shrunk by about 70-80% and even state governments should be reduced by half. That said, I do think that the government has a role in defending morality, for example in decency laws, eliminating no fault-divorce, and encouraging large, stable families through tax incentives.

When I say small, I mean that a huge majority of the things government does today can be privatized. I don't think government should be involved in banking, healthcare, most infrastructure, education, etc. That alone would eliminate a huge chunk of government spending and control. I don't believe in no government, though.

You're "TokenLibertarianGuy" aren't you?

Whether I would say I believe in "No government" would depend on how you define government. I believe that if any action is illegitimate for me or you to do, its illegitimate for anyone calling themself "government" and if an action is legitimate for them, it should be legitimate for me too.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Christian

VI. The whole counsel of God, concerning all things necessary for his own glory, man's salvation, faith, and life, is either expressly set down in Scripture, or by good and necessary consequence may be deduced from Scripture: unto which nothing at any time is to be added, whether by new revelations of the Spirit, or traditions of men.

 

[dillo]

Yeah, the word "conservative" in the poll is referring to people generally thought of to be conservative, such as Hannity, Limbaugh, Levin, etc.

Despite my username, which I picked three years ago, I'm more of a Constitutionalist than a "conservative."

ok i was thinking consevative as like George Will or Pat Buchanan in modern terms

 

[Sola_Fide]

Somewhere along the lines of a minarchist paleoconservative with some theonomist leanings.

Basically I believe in small government, the smaller the better, the more local the better, but I do believe that government has a role in defending morality and that law should be based on Christian moral teachings.

That said, I do think that the government has a role in defending morality, for example in decency laws, eliminating no fault-divorce, and encouraging large, stable families through tax incentives.

This is just the standard Romanist perspective on everything. Morality must be state-enforced. I used to be a Reconstructionist until by the grace of God I realized how Reconstructionism is just rehashed Romanism. I have nothing but contempt for it now.

 

[eduardo89]

This is just the standard Romanist perspective on everything. Morality must be state-enforced. I used to be a Reconstructionist until by the grace of God I realized how Reconstructionism is just rehashed Romanism. I have nothing but contempt for it now.

I never said state enforced. Morality does not come from laws, but when laws are immoral they do affect the morality of the people who are subject to them.

 

[Sola_Fide]

I never said state enforced. Morality does not come from laws, but when laws are immoral they do affect the morality of the people who are subject to them.

Yes you did. You said:

but I do believe that government has a role in defending morality and that law should be based on Christian moral teachings.

And:

That said, I do think that the government has a role in defending morality, for example in decency laws, eliminating no fault-divorce, and encouraging large, stable families through tax incentives.

 

[Christian Liberty]

This is just the standard Romanist perspective on everything. Morality must be state-enforced. I used to be a Reconstructionist until by the grace of God I realized how Reconstructionism is just rehashed Romanism. I have nothing but contempt for it now.

How would you disprove the reconstructionist position? (I don't agree with it of course, but I'm curious what argument you'd use since I occasionally debate them.)
Since you say reconstructionism is "Repackaged Romanism" and you obviously don't believe Catholicism is Christianity, do you believe you were unsaved when you were a reconstructionist?

 

[Sola_Fide]

Since you say reconstructionism is "Repackaged Romanism" and you obviously don't believe Catholicism is Christianity, do you believe you were unsaved when you were a reconstructionist?

I think so. I didn't know grace. All I knew was law.

 

[eduardo89]

Yes you did. You said:

So you believe no-fault divorce (assuming the state remains involved in marriage), abortion, and public masturbation should be legal then?

 

[BuddyRey]

Ahem....

Guys, this thread asks you for your political ideology.

 

[pcosmar]

I think Constitutionalist would be closest. But i would say Libertarian Constitutionalist,, rather than an Authoritarian Constitutionalist.

 

[Sola_Fide]

So you believe no-fault divorce (assuming the state remains involved in marriage), abortion, and public masturbation should be legal then?

You want our government, the most immoral, murderous and evil regime in the world, to be involved in enforcing morality? That's just insane.

I believe free people can determine ways to govern themselves in a voluntary way. You don't need a murderous regime to enforce morality on you.

 

[eduardo89]

You want our government, the most immoral, murderous and evil regime in the world, to be involved in enforcing morality? That's just insane.

I believe free people can determine ways to govern themselves in a voluntary way. You don't need a murderous regime to enforce morality on you.

I never said anything about enforcing morality. I said that laws should be reflect Christian morality.

 

[Tod]

I think he was just saying that the government should legislate morality at the local level, that we shouldn't have a big federal government that legislates morality.

Legislate morality? Is that even possible? I don't think it is.

 

[green73]

You should have made it able to pick more than one.

ETA: And no Libertarian?

You're not an ancap? smh

 

[eduardo89]

I think he was just saying that the government should legislate morality at the local level, that we shouldn't have a big federal government that legislates morality.

No, all I said is that laws should reflect Christian morality. And yes, the more local the government the better.

 

[Neil Desmond]

I picked Constitutionalist. I suppose it's redundant to say Constitutionalist libertarian.

 

[Sola_Fide]

I never said anything about enforcing morality. I said that laws should be reflect Christian morality.

Is this an example of "Christian morality"? This is an interview with Walter Mill, a former priest in the 1500's who heard the gospel and denied Romanism, just before he was burned alive:

Catholic Accuser: You say there are not seven sacraments.

Walter Mill: Give me the Lord's Supper and baptism, and you take the rest and divide them among yourselves. [Note: Obviously Walter's not intimidated here, as his sarcasm shows.]

Catholic Accuser: You are against the blessed sacrament of the altar, and you say that the mass is wrong and idolatry.

Walter Mill: A lord or king sends and calls many to a dinner. When the dinner is ready … men come to the hall … but the lord turns his back to them, eats by himself, and mocks them! That's what you do!

Catholic Accuser: You deny the sacrament of the altar to be the very body of Christ really in flesh and blood.

Walter Mill: As for the mass, it is wrong because Christ was offered once on the cross for men's trespass and will never be offered again. He ended all sacrifice there.

Catholic Accuser: You preach secretly and privately in houses and openly in the fields.

Walter Mill: Oh yes! And on the sea also, sailing in a ship!

Catholic Accuser: Will you recant your erroneous opinions?

Walter Mill: I will not recant the truth

Walter Mill was burned alive for denying the sacramentalism of Rome. Was that the kind of "defending of morality" you had in mind?

 

[eduardo89]

Is this an example of "Christian morality"? This is an interview with Walter Mill, a former priest in the 1500's who heard the gospel and denied Romanism, just before he was burned alive:

Walter Mill was burned alive for denying the sacramentalism of Rome. Was that the kind of "defending of morality" you had in mind?

Sola, you are such a failure at debating anything. Where did I say anything about executing heretics? Seriously, the only way you can ever debate anything is by twisting the other person's words and misrepresenting their theology.

 

[Root]

Don't label me.