What Is the Third Term Project? Pro-Trump Group Bids to Change Constitution

[acptulsa]

You asked who was closer to one and was more likely to ever become one.

No. I only asked who was more likely to become one. The rest is just your lame attempt at obfuscation, and your lame attempts to gaslight everyone into thinking I asked for your lame obfuscation.

 

[Swordsmyth]

No. I only asked who was more likely to become one. The rest is just your lame attempt at obfuscation, and your lame attempts to gaslight everyone into thinking I asked for your lame obfuscation.

LOL

Who is closer to one already is an inherent part of who is more likely to become one.

 

[familydog]

I can't believe someone would dare use the Constitutional provision to amend the Constitution. That's just out of line.

 

[acptulsa]

Who is closer to one already is an inherent part of who is more likely to become one.

Which is why Castro came from a failed tryout with a major league American baseball team to dictator of Cuba and all any of Batista's senators got was shot.

You are 110% ignorant of history. Dictators almost always come from the Charismatic Outsider category here in the real world.

Quick quiz, ignoramus. Did Hindenburg have Hitler in the Bundestag, or in prison? What role did Stalin play in Tsar Nickie II's government?

Shizakampf. You don't have thoughts. You pull whatever bolsters your prejudice out of your ass, then get prissy when people won't swallow it.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Which is why Castro came from a failed tryout with a major league American baseball team to dictator of Cuba and all any of Batista's senators got was shot.

You are 110% ignorant of history. Dictators almost always come from the Charismatic Outsider category here in the real world.

Quick quiz, ignoramus. Did Hindenburg have Hitler in the Bundestag, or in prison? What role did Stalin play in Tsar Nickie II's government?

Shizakampf. You don't have thoughts. You pull whatever bolsters your prejudice out of your ass, then get prissy when people won't swallow it.

LOL

Most dictators come from people who already wield power taking more, Hitler was Chancellor when he made himself dictator.
Stalin was in Lenin's government.
Castro was a revolutionary army leader.

The unelected bureaucrats turning the EU into a dictatorship/oligarchy (true dictatorships don't exist) were politicians in the system.
It's true of any dictator you want to point to, they all have power before seizing maximum power.

Trump does have some power, he could become one in theory, nobody said he couldn't.
But the cabal oligarchy the Senate is highly placed in has much more power for now, Trump has to fight it to get anything done and to weaken it for destruction.

 

[Snowball]

I am totally against term limits. Term limits go against the right of the people to choose their representatives.

That being said, I don't see how this can pass politically at all. Maybe he can find another country to take charge of.

 

[acptulsa]

The Senate has longer terms... they accrue far more power than the President if they work their way up the leadership and are much harder to remove

And you think because Hitler assumed the existing role of Chancellor as a brief step, and the fact that Castro recruited and armed a band of rebels, somehow supports your hare-brained contention that anybody's going to rally behind Generalissimo Tortoise?

Yer funny.

 

[Swordsmyth]

And you think because Hitler assumed the existing role of Chancellor as a brief step, and the fact that Castro recruited and armed a band of rebels, somehow supports your hare-brained contention that anybody's going to rally behind Generalissimo Tortoise?

Yer funny.

The entire deepstate is rallied around him, as they will around his replacement.
They hold most of the positions of power and influence, they are who count.

 

[acptulsa]

The entire deepstate is rallied around him, as they will around his replacement.
They hold most of the positions of power and influence, they are who count.

And you think that is going to enable him to dictate terms to everyone? Including Trump?

Do I need to send you a dictionary? Would you even use it if I did? Or are you afraid it's full of facts that might change your closed mind?

 

[Swordsmyth]

And you think that is going to enable him to dictate terms to everyone? Including Trump?

It has in fact enabled him to dictate many things, like who would be confirmed by the Senate or what bills would even get a vote etc. etc. etc.

 

[acptulsa]

It has in fact enabled him to dictate many things...

Cute. Now answer the question.

He can dictate a letter to his secretary, ergo he's a dictator? Just like Trump can order ham on rye, ergo that creates an EO?

About that dictionary. You'd save yourself a lot of embarrassment if you bought one and used it. But of course you want to redefine every word, because you're just like a damned Democrat.

 

[Working Poor]

Obama had a 3rd term and he didn't even run. Trump could do the same thing.

 

[Madison320]

I am totally against term limits. Term limits go against the right of the people to choose their representatives.

That being said, I don't see how this can pass politically at all. Maybe he can find another country to take charge of.

I don't think there's a natural right to run for office. Political positions are artificially constructed by government, it's not like a right to property.

I think term limits are the best safeguard against dictatorships. It seems like every dictatorship starts by eliminating term limits.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I don't think there's a natural right to run for office. Political positions are artificially constructed by government, it's not like a right to property.

I think term limits are the best safeguard against dictatorships. It seems like every dictatorship starts by eliminating term limits.

Term limits enshrine oligarchy and the dictatorship of unelected bureaucrats.

 

[Snowball]

I don't think there's a natural right to run for office. Political positions are artificially constructed by government, it's not like a right to property.

I think term limits are the best safeguard against dictatorships. It seems like every dictatorship starts by eliminating term limits.

You misread my post. It's not about any right for the elected to run again.

It's about the right of the electorate to choose him again.

The safeguards against dictatorship or any other illicit regime are inherent within the Constitution, and, philosophically, in the Declaration of Independence. That's how it stood until 1951 when 36 states ratified the 22nd Amendment.

Massachusetts and Oklahoma rejected the amendment, while five (Arizona, Kentucky, Rhode Island, Washington, and West Virginia) took no action - to this day. I say "to this day", because states routinely ratify amendments decades later, as a symbolic expression of support.

 

[Madison320]

Term limits enshrine oligarchy and the dictatorship of unelected bureaucrats.

You misread my post. It's not about any right for the elected to run again.

It's about the right of the electorate to choose him again.

The safeguards against dictatorship or any other illicit regime are inherent within the Constitution, and, philosophically, in the Declaration of Independence. That's how it stood until 1951 when 36 states ratified the 22nd Amendment.

Massachusetts and Oklahoma rejected the amendment, while five (Arizona, Kentucky, Rhode Island, Washington, and West Virginia) took no action - to this day. I say "to this day", because states routinely ratify amendments decades later, as a symbolic expression of support.

I agree you should be able to vote for whoever you want, but I don't agree anyone should be allowed to run. For example I don't think foreign nationals should be allowed to run for office.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I agree you should be able to vote for whoever you want, but I don't agree anyone should be allowed to run. For example I don't think foreign nationals should be allowed to run for office.

I agree about foreigners.

 

[PAF]

I agree about foreigners.

I don't vote anyway... but what's the difference between foreigners and those Red-Blooded Americans in office who have screwed the people and this nation royally? It's better to be betrayed by our own, like people like you?

 

[oyarde]

To propose:
... 2/3 of the House of Representatives
... and
... 2/3 of the Senate

To ratify:
... 38 state legislatures

It is wat I also surmise

 

[oyarde]

I do agree w/ Reid . M Mconnell and Scummer doing great damage to US .Were I differ w/ most is I dont tink damage will be corrected