What is Gingrich's role in this race? CBS makes it clear.

[acptulsa]

Not seeing video of the spot from Saturday evening's national newscast, but I can certainly summarize. They went and talked to some blue collar individual who was for Gingrich, citing his experience (and apparently blissfully unaware that he mostly had experience being corrupt), another who was sick of Romney and Gingrich sniping at each other and therefore going to vote for Santorum for no other particular reason, and then turned the camera on a white collar individual who eruditely explained that he used to be for Ron Paul, but is scared of Gingrich and will therefore be trying to 'stop him' by voting for Romney.

Gingrich is the bad cop, Romney is the good cop. Or, to put it another way, Romney is the 'lesser of G.O.P. evils', and Gingrich is there to scare people into voting for him whether they want him or not.

There are a number of ways to combat this. First and foremost, anyone with a real anxiety about this should be reminded that no one becomes the G.O.P. candidate without over fifty percent of the delegate vote at the convention. And, of course, Gingrich would never win the general election anyway. So, letting this cause you to vote against when you have someone worth voting for is asinine. It isn't needed. Gingrich isn't going anywhere.

But we need to spread this message. Don't let Gingrich the nasty sheep dog herd you into a place you don't want to be.

 

[mosquitobite]

Yeah, I can see that analysis. And people lap it up!

 

[Defrauded]

He's there representing the CFR

 

[Tyler_Durden]

Sounds like a setup to me.....

 

[CaptUSA]

Please, this is ridiculous.

First, no supporter of Ron Paul jumps ship to "keep Gingrich from the Presidency". We all know full well that if there was a miracle and Gingrich won the nomination, he'd NEVER win the general election.

Second, if someone really IS scared of Ginrgich, Romney should scare them even more, because he might actually have a chance of being elected.

 

[acptulsa]

He's there representing the CFR

Along with Romney, Santorum, and Obama. I'm addressing what his role in supporting the CFR may be...

 

[acptulsa]

About the only Dubya functionary missing from Romney's advisor list is Cheney. We could do well to emphasize this fact. This would go a long way toward painting Gingrich-Romney as 'bad cop-bad cop'.

 

[jolynna]

Romney, the "good cop", was bought by the same bankers who bought Obama for the last election.

Obama's charm, and nicey-nice ways, weren't as scary as people remembered Hillary being when she pushed national health care while her husband was president. In his two years in the senate, Obama established himself as without ethics by voting in the direction every lobbyist who approached him. He proved himself to be easy & able to be bought--which was what Wall Street wanted.

Romney, who on the surface seems bland to the max, is also without moral compass. He can switch from pro-choice to pro-life at the blink of an eye and was even willing to be videoed holding and kissing a baby to prove it.

Romney who took Massachusetts down to 47th worst place to find a job (out of 50), will be NO BETTER at solving the nation's unemployment dilemma than Obama WAS a pacifist who wanted to end war. But, Wall Street and corporate interests are no more interested in people finding jobs than they cared about ending war. Solving "the nation's employment woes" & "ending war" are slogans to get their guys elected so that they--the bankrupt Too Big Too Fail Banks and Corporations--will be kept propped up at taxpayer expense. Liberties that might get in the way--should people get rowdy over the forced austerity and taxes to come--are being done away with WHILE we get to watch entertaining debates where our prospective leaders spar about which one has the wife that would make the best first lady AND Mitt and Newt battle over which one got the MOST Freddie or Fannie money.

It is all a farce. No more real than an episode of Real Housewives or Jerry Springer.

 

[jolynna]

acptulsa, if I could give you 100 stars for your insightful comment about Romney having EVERY one of Dubya's staff but Cheney I would.

Obama was bought to continue what Dubya started. And HE HAS. Romney bought to do the same.

Check opensecrets.com to find out WHO donated how much to all of the candidate's campaigns.

 

[acptulsa]

Check opensecrets.com to find out WHO donated how much to all of the candidate's campaigns.

Or better still, follow them down several campaigns regardless of party, and see why the presidents may change, but the policies never do.

Gingrich = Romney. One is not scarier than the other. The 'good cop' and the 'bad cop' are the same cop.

 

[Babylon]

Please, this is ridiculous.

First, no supporter of Ron Paul jumps ship to "keep Gingrich from the Presidency". We all know full well that if there was a miracle and Gingrich won the nomination, he'd NEVER win the general election.

Second, if someone really IS scared of Ginrgich, Romney should scare them even more, because he might actually have a chance of being elected.

They might in Florida.
Ron Paul won't win in Florida, there are no proportional delegates in Florida, and Ron Paul has consistently lowered expectations for Florida.
So, why not vote strategically?

 

[acptulsa]

So, why not vote strategically?

The best reason not to vote strategically is because you're not ignorant enough to buy the bull. Because, after all, CaptUSA is right on every point.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Gingrich is the bad cop, Romney is the good cop. Or, to put it another way, Romney is the 'lesser of G.O.P. evils', and Gingrich is there to scare people into voting for him whether they want him or not.

Yeah, they are both establishment choices, although there are true divisions even among their supporters. Those who really know Gingrich don't want him. Most of the neo-conservatives prefer Gingrich because they believe that he will serve their single minded purpose of war better than Romney.

 

[thelaibon]

Romney, the "good cop", was bought by the same bankers who bought Obama for the last election.

Obama's charm, and nicey-nice ways, weren't as scary as people remembered Hillary being when she pushed national health care while her husband was president. In his two years in the senate, Obama established himself as without ethics by voting in the direction every lobbyist who approached him. He proved himself to be easy & able to be bought--which was what Wall Street wanted.

Romney, who on the surface seems bland to the max, is also without moral compass. He can switch from pro-choice to pro-life at the blink of an eye and was even willing to be videoed holding and kissing a baby to prove it.

Romney who took Massachusetts down to 47th worst place to find a job (out of 50), will be NO BETTER at solving the nation's unemployment dilemma than Obama WAS a pacifist who wanted to end war. But, Wall Street and corporate interests are no more interested in people finding jobs than they cared about ending war. Solving "the nation's employment woes" & "ending war" are slogans to get their guys elected so that they--the bankrupt Too Big Too Fail Banks and Corporations--will be kept propped up at taxpayer expense. Liberties that might get in the way--should people get rowdy over the forced austerity and taxes to come--are being done away with WHILE we get to watch entertaining debates where our prospective leaders spar about which one has the wife that would make the best first lady AND Mitt and Newt battle over which one got the MOST Freddie or Fannie money.

It is all a farce. No more real than an episode of Real Housewives or Jerry Springer.

Couldn't be said more eloquently. Thank you.

 

[Romulus]

Gingrich gets the teocon vote all day long.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

He's there representing the CFR

So is Romney. And I dont remember what Santorum links to, but.it's something.

 

[Romulus]

So is Romney. And I dont remember what Santorum links to, but.it's something.

Probably Soros with all his Soros accusations of Paul.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

The establishment intention all along was for it to be a good cop, bad cop show, in two acts. First act, Gingrich lingers in the primaries to be Romney's bad cop, to reinforce the choice of primary voters to back up Mitt. Then in the election, Romney becomes the bad cop to enable Obama to get re-elected. The elite's plan ran into two complications---one being Paul, of course, and the other being the lack of an additional strong social conservative candidate to split that vote with Newt in SC, so Romney was not able to wrap the race up (in the media's eyes) last week as planned. The new back-up plan is to make Mitt's victory in FL "the new SC" and work from there.

If you look at the long, broader picture, across decades, this is about the establishment maintaining absolute control over the continuity of security and (especially) foreign policy under the Bush and Clinton families (the latter were chosen to be the Democratic water carriers by GHW Bush et al in the 70's). Since January 1981, a Bush or a Clinton has had control over foreign policy within the executive branch, with the elections serving only as window dressing to provide legitimacy over the transitions. The other establishment contenders were merely fall backs who would serve the masters if their preferred families failed to win despite the entire system being greased in their favor.

What else explains the first Bush being pushed onto Reagan's ticket in '80, his winning in '88 despite being pathetic at debating and campaigning, Slick Willie triumphing twice despite dozens of scandals, GW Bush winning despite being worse than his father, or Obama picking Hillary to head the State department? No matter who has won the election in 32 years, we get the Bush-Clinton foreign policy, and omni-security state. In this light, the real point behind Mitt and Newt beating each other down is to ensure a weak and exposed candidate gets beaten down by Obama in November, so Hillary can continue controlling foreign policy from State, or as VP. Mitt winning in '12 ruins the B-C hold, and his being in President prevents Jeb Bush from getting in (unless he is made VP on Mitt's ticket). Thus the weak, losing GOP field in 2012 serves to enable continuity in the Bush/Clinton policy, long enough for Jeb to get elected to the White House in 2016.

 

[goldpants]

This is the real deal, Newt is the bad cop or as the blue collar ilk of the republican party that identify themselves as tea partiers see him "the outsider". Between Herman Cain's silly man of the people act and Sarah Palin's role as the voice of these blue collar tea partiers both pushing Gingrich as the tea party's choice despite him having oh so little in common with their cause. Who is allowing Cain a long time Washington insider and fed employee to be a main voice of the tea party? There is clearly a lot of would be Ron Paul supporters, if it wasn't for the media's mind assault on the American people. I have been to enough blogs on the internet to know that Grinch and the established have hijacked a ton of our angry with the status quo crowd SC in particular. Their game is working pretty well, let's see how our counter measures work.

 

[acptulsa]

This is the real deal, Newt is the bad cop or as the blue collar ilk of the republican party that identify themselves as tea partiers see him "the outsider".

Yeah, the 'outsider' who uses his experience as a selling point. Otherwise known as an insider who was caught being crooked. Such a grand champion for the working man, with his freshly manicured nails...