What is Doug Wead talking about?!

Before the Colorado Conventions, our local campaign coordinator even told us something to the effect of "we want (national) delegates who would be willing to vote for Romney," despite the fact that he was actively and publically pushing us to vote for Santorum delegates. 8) Benton, Fein and Tate all said, at different times, that they were pushing for a VP deal like this. The writing has been on the wall for over a month now and even low level coordinators seem privy to it. Wasn't sure whether they were pushing for Ron or Rand as VP, but I kind of get the sense it's Rand, judging by the machinations I've witnessed (Rand people, working with Holdrige and Benton to trade away entire slates of Ron Paulers for some marginal committee positions).

And I will say, without a doubt in my mind, that by doing so (throwing the current campaign under the bus for the benefit of Rand's political future), that they are guaranteeing a RP Revolution backlash the majority of us will NOT support Rand Paul.
 
I have reason to believe the campaign has a surprise in store for supporters down the road. We're not down, and we're not out.
 
1. Ron Paul's campaign has NEVER put out an attack ad against Romney, even with no others left,
2. Both Paul, and Romney have said in the past they talk to each other, and are more 'friendly' then other candidates
3. Ron Paul's Campaign email announcing they were focusing on delegates now not campaigning
4. Ron Paul's Campaign email from Jesse Benton announcing 'We Can't Win'


The writing is on the wall anyone unable to admit it is not being realistic with themselves. A deal HAS been struck. What the deal is? We hopefully find out sooner then later.

You have always been a doubt seeder. Doesn't do you or anyboy any good. I am being nice here.

Rev9
 
Ron was asked recently if he had spoken to Romney about policy. He said no, when they talk its generally about family.

I can't understand why people would think a deal has been made with Romney. Deal's & compromise are not exactly Dr Paul's thing. If Romney promises a change in foreign or monetary policy, why on earth would Ron believe him? He has always responded to promises and commitments as being just talk. They NEVER do the things they promise.

People's readiness to believe a deal has been struck just baffles me.

He sat down with Bernanke for breakfast last time he was in Washington. I would like to have been a fly on the wall there. I can guarantee you that it was Bernanke trying to make a deal with Paul. What could he possibly offer??

Rev9
 
He sat down with Bernanke for breakfast last time he was in Washington. I would like to have been a fly on the wall there. I can guarantee you that it was Bernanke trying to make a deal with Paul. What could he possibly offer??

Rev9

I think they were just discussing competing currencies. They had both agreed to have a conversation on the subject when it was brought up in committee a few months ago I believe.
 
He sat down with Bernanke for breakfast last time he was in Washington. I would like to have been a fly on the wall there. I can guarantee you that it was Bernanke trying to make a deal with Paul. What could he possibly offer??

Rev9
Wasn't it the same day that the mayhem started?
I want to know what's going on:(
 
And I will say, without a doubt in my mind, that by doing so (throwing the current campaign under the bus for the benefit of Rand's political future), that they are guaranteeing a RP Revolution backlash the majority of us will NOT support Rand Paul.

Yeah, at this point, Rand will have a lot of work to do if he wants to gain my trust, and he doesn't have enough time to do it by 2016. At a minimum, he'd need to cut any ties to Benton.
 
''From here until August I am now considering all negative Nancy commentators to be either trolls, spies or provocateurs. This is just getting exciting.''

i agree with this. I would like to see mods ban these types in here instead of people who may or may not have low post content, but have their hearts in the right place.

Freedom of speech much?
 
Ron Paul stands for everything that's wrong with America. Cutting a deal of any sorts is ludicrous at the very least. The Revolution has been gaining serious momentum, why give up now? It doesn't add up. I'm sure we'll find out very soon what this is all about.
 
You have always been a doubt seeder. Doesn't do you or anyboy any good. I am being nice here.

Rev9

What doesn't do anyone any good is attacking people who are pointing out the obvious.

If you'd like to bury your head in the sand and set yourself for a terrible disappointment when it's discovered a deal has been struck (the writing is clearly all over the wall) than so be it.

But people pointing out the obvious and trying to accept what's happening shouldn't be chastised for their assumptions that are being based on more fact than your assumptions. It's better to accept reality than deny it.

If a deal has been struck it isn't the end of the world, and it will be really interesting to see what we got. The VP, a speech, influence of party platform, cabinet positions... you really have no idea what were getting so we shouldn't act like it's the end of the world and tear people up who disagree.
 
''From here until August I am now considering all negative Nancy commentators to be either trolls, spies or provocateurs. This is just getting exciting.''

i agree with this. I would like to see mods ban these types in here instead of people who may or may not have low post content, but have their hearts in the right place.

Not really in the spirit of Liberty though, is it?
 
If a deal has been struck it isn't the end of the world, and it will be really interesting to see what we got. The VP, a speech, influence of party platform, cabinet positions... you really have no idea what were getting so we shouldn't act like it's the end of the world and tear people up who disagree.

"VP, a speech, influence of party platform, cabinet positions"

Let's say we get all of the above, do you consider that a win?
 
What doesn't do anyone any good is attacking people who are pointing out the obvious.

If you'd like to bury your head in the sand and set yourself for a terrible disappointment when it's discovered a deal has been struck (the writing is clearly all over the wall) than so be it.

But people pointing out the obvious and trying to accept what's happening shouldn't be chastised for their assumptions that are being based on more fact than your assumptions. It's better to accept reality than deny it.

If a deal has been struck it isn't the end of the world, and it will be really interesting to see what we got. The VP, a speech, influence of party platform, cabinet positions... you really have no idea what were getting so we shouldn't act like it's the end of the world and tear people up who disagree.

Maybe we got a speech? Given that what we are after is constitutional government and the rule of law, a speech probably won't cut it.

"the obvious", "writing on the wall", "accept reality"? You are not just making "assumptions" as you put it, you are making assertions.

You are also being quite rude, your tone is not Ron Paul approved.

And I think you should change your username to something else.

How about: NoOneButPaul...unless we get a speech, in which case Romney will do...
 
"VP, a speech, influence of party platform, cabinet positions"
Let's say we get all of the above, do you consider that a win?

I'd consider Dr. Paul as the VP spot as a huge win. It wouldn't be the hugest; but it would put Paul in a position where he has access to most everything and a pulpit from which he can speak freely.
 
I'd consider Dr. Paul as the VP spot as a huge win. It wouldn't be the hugest; but it would put Paul in a position where he has access to most everything and a pulpit from which he can speak freely.

You really need to think about what you're writing.

Dr. Paul spent his entire career voting exactly how he felt and not based on politics. Ron Paul accepting a VP slot to Romney, who is basically the epitome of what Dr. Paul is against, would violate everything he's tried to do for the last 30 years.
 
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