What happened to Tucker Carlson? Did he get pissed off? and not come back?

The question was not out of line. IMO (I'm not a truther)
The question was framed as the fact it is and was followed up with the observation that this country completely changed it's foreign policy among other things based on a crime that no one was officially charged with.

Sounds like a good question to me.

What bothers me about Jesse is his egoic behavior, I mean really, this revolution and the Campaign For Liberty has to "prove" to him it's worth it? That's all we need is another ego maniac in DC, aren't there enough of those there already?

While they may agree on issues, Jesse is the antithesis of Ron Paul.

Tucker's opening comments were great but I don't care why he left.... The rally wasn't about him and I thought the young man filling in (sorry don't know his name) did a fine job.

Personally, I didn't think that was the place for the question. The campaign for liberty was about representing the ideals of a Ron Paul Republican. Jesse Grandstanded, voiced his opinion, showboated, and ultimately discussed something that wasn't the viewpoint of Ron. That's just how I saw it, and at that point I shut it off for a while until I knew Jesse wouldn't be on.
 
I'm no truther by any stretch of the imagination. I do, however, think there should be a more thorough investigation into the incompetence that allowed the attack to occur and a few people should lose their jobs at the very least.

Now, that being said... I checked the FBI website and Jesse is right. 9/11 is not mentioned in bin Laden's list of crimes.

Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world.

Other terrorist attacks throughout the world? Kinda vague when one of those is the biggest act of terrorism on US soil, no? In fact, 9/11 isn't mentioned at all in relation to the dozen or so individuals on the FBI's most wanted terrorist web page.

One could accuse Ventura's comments last night of wandering into truther territory, but one could also interpret them as saying that we had better dot all the i's and cross all the t's before we stomp around the world overthrowing governments.

But it would have been better if he had kept his mouth shut about it.
 
I'm no truther by any stretch of the imagination. I do, however, think there should be a more thorough investigation into the incompetence that allowed the attack to occur and a few people should lose their jobs at the very least.

Now, that being said... I checked the FBI website and Jesse is right. 9/11 is not mentioned in bin Laden's list of crimes.



Other terrorist attacks throughout the world? Kinda vague when one of those is the biggest act of terrorism on US soil, no? In fact, 9/11 isn't mentioned at all in relation to the dozen or so individuals on the FBI's most wanted terrorist web page.

One could accuse Ventura's comments last night of wandering into truther territory, but one could also interpret them as saying that we had better dot all the i's and cross all the t's before we stomp around the world overthrowing governments.

But it would have been better if he had kept his mouth shut about it.

"stomp around the world overthrowing governments"

That's the part that resonated with me. Honestly, I cringed when he ventured into "truther" territory but the way he framed the question fit perfectly with RP's message about foriegn policy.
 
At that point the rally turned into a truther rally. It was ridiculous. Thankfully there were some sane speakers to steer the rally back on track.

OF course the truther and one with the worst record as governor got the loudest chants....you guys claim to be against the establishment and for freedom but you're cheering and touting a guy who's record is the exact opposite.

What happened to principle? You guys preach it here, but that's lost when ventura takes the box.

I'm not a Ventura fan, but his 2 questions on 9/11 were completely in line and appropriate. Why can't we ask questions about 9/11?
 
The question was not out of line. IMO (I'm not a truther)
The question was framed as the fact it is and was followed up with the observation that this country completely changed it's foreign policy among other things based on a crime that no one was officially charged with.

Sounds like a good question to me.

What bothers me about Jesse is his egoic behavior, I mean really, this revolution and the Campaign For Liberty has to "prove" to him it's worth it? That's all we need is another ego maniac in DC, aren't there enough of those there already?

While they may agree on issues, Jesse is the antithesis of Ron Paul.

Tucker's opening comments were great but I don't care why he left.... The rally wasn't about him and I thought the young man filling in (sorry don't know his name) did a fine job.

I thought the most awkward moment was when he compared securing our borders to becoming an "East Berlin," and all because we're afraid of "those brown people." I took offense, and I could sense I wasn't the only one.

All and all, I think he had an inspiring message, and definitely injected some energy into the crowd.
 
I thought the most awkward moment was when he compared securing our borders to becoming an "East Berlin," and all because we're afraid of "those brown people." I took offense, and I could sense I wasn't the only one.

All and all, I think he had an inspiring message, and definitely injected some energy into the crowd.

Now that you mention it, I thought that was far more controversial than the remarks about 911. In fact, it should get people thinking about the PURPOSE of that fence.
 
how can you even compare voting conservatively to truthers? Again, the rally was a truther rally, not one about limited to government and freedom. I would have left, too. Ron Paul isn't a truther, and just because he does interviews on some guy's radio show doesn't mean he is. He's said time and time again he's not and the rally wasn't the place. Way to make all the real principled ones in this movement look like wackjobs, and way to soil ron's name by chanting that there. Jesse was self serving and egotistic, and his record isn't impressive to boot. Might wanna check these people you think are so great....his record is more in line with Bill Clinton than Ron Paul.

Where did I post Ventura is great?? "Some guy"? Alex Jones isn't just some guy with a radio show, he is known primarily for being a "truther" and "conspiracy theorist". And wasn't the NAU a "conspiracy" 6 months ago?? All Ventura did was say the issue needed investigating and pointed out that the FBI found no evidence linking him to 9-11.

Here's a Ron Paul statement on the subject:
http://www.total911.info/2007/01/prez-explorer-paul-investigate-911.html

Like others here, I take more issue with the private property implications of Venturas open borders ideas than his pointing out some incovenient "truths".
 
I'm not a Ventura fan, but his 2 questions on 9/11 were completely in line and appropriate. Why can't we ask questions about 9/11?

Of course because it's over and done with let's not get into the little details about some event that happened in the past...It's history and no one studies history anymore...Anyways, our government told us what happened, and they are the final authority on all matters, even raw milk!!! :rolleyes:
 
Considering the way Jesse REALLY feels about 9/11 I think he kept it pretty P.C. What he said was fact though, so you can't get mad about that.
 
If this story is true then the Liberty movement is waaay too sensitive. Or atleast certain Libertarians like Tucker are. People really need to grow a spine. I'm not a 9/11 Truther but everyone KNEW Ventura would question 9/11. Alex Jones flat out believes 9/11 was an inside job and RP still goes on his show.

Tucker is a kiss ass brown noser if I've ever seen one, he is the epitome of what is wrong with washington insiders, go where the wind blows, do what they tell you, stand for everything and nothing. He supported RP just as much as he bad mouthed him and hurt him with his double speak. F*CK T*CKER, worthless little worm :D
 
He seemed like he was really uncomfortable up there the whole time, like he felt out of place, and didn't seem to agree with a lot of the stuff that was being said.
My guess is that he felt weird the entire arena was half-empty (or less) when he started. Until later that day it was largely empty. Being told you sold 11k seats and then speaking to a half empty room is very disappointing. But I was glad to see the place to be mostly packed for the end of it.
 
Considering the way Jesse REALLY feels about 9/11 I think he kept it pretty P.C. What he said was fact though, so you can't get mad about that.
I'm not a Ventura fan, but his 2 questions on 9/11 were completely in line and appropriate. Why can't we ask questions about 9/11?

Yes, his questions were perfectly logical and do not even imply any conspiracy at all. However he should not have discussed this at the R4R event because it detracted from everything else.
 
During the run for resident. Tucker Carlson was the ONLY person giving Ron Paul equal air time, and the ONLY well known mainstream media personality who flat out said he was voting for Ron Paul....lay off the guy. Tucker got Ron Pauls name on MSNBC often during the campaign in a positive manner....I personally love him for it.
 
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