What Do Women Want?

Okay, well um......yeah. Still, don't get it. Whatever, atleast in my case the doors gonna be yours. There's a reason women don't find "manly" men anymore, no effort. Men haven't changed much. It's not like the fairy tales and all. They still are willing to pretty much give into, whatever it is you want from them.

I'm not debating you, I'm trying to help you. I thought you were asking for insight from an actual real woman? And no, there really aren't as many 'manly men' around. At least not smart ones. I didn't mention the intelligence factor but figured that's a given on RPF. ;)

What does the doors gonna be yours mean? :confused:
 
Just meant I wasn't going to hold a door. The way I see it's like, why should I give any effort at all? In my opinion, the men of 50 years ago weren't any better than the ones of today.
 
Just meant I wasn't going to hold a door. The way I see it's like, why should I give any effort at all? In my opinion, the men of 50 years ago weren't any better than the ones of today.

Gotcha. And that's okay, just giving my perspective on what women like being one and all. It is what it is. I don't think men were better then, I think society changed in ways that made things more confusing for men and women.

You're asking why you should give any effort and at the same time complaining because you don't understand? I'm not exactly sure why you are asking questions at all? Do you think you are going to meet AND keep the perfect woman without effort? Any woman worth having will leave you fast if effort isn't your thing. ;)

Maybe I'm not explaining it well, though. Or maybe I'm not understanding exactly what you're after. You sounded frustrated and I was trying to help. Oh well...it's late and I'm off to bed.
 
“I hate the term ‘rape fantasies,’ ” she went on. “They’re really fantasies of submission.” She spoke about the thrill of being wanted so much that the aggressor is willing to overpower, to take.

For women, “being desired is the orgasm,” Meana said somewhat metaphorically — it is, in her vision, at once the thing craved and the spark of craving. About the dynamic at “Zumanity” between the audience and the acrobats, Meana said the women in the crowd gazed at the women onstage, excitedly imagining that their bodies were as desperately wanted as those of the performers.

Clearly, what [one of the things] woman want is to be lusted after, and then to submit to that lust. The 'thrill' has nothing to do with wishing to be violated. This explains why some woman wear 'slutty' clothing but don't end up having sex with everyone in the room; they want your desire for them but they don't want you. It also explains why some women lose sexual desire so quickly after marriage even when they have loving husbands - they feel secure but they no longer feel wanted.

However, this article should really be titled Discovering What Women Want since it doesn't really talk so much about what they want as the research being done on the subject.
 
I always thought the sexy clothes were cuz they kinda turn themselves on.
 
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Anne Heche is a huge bitch. She was in a Northwest Airlines members-only lounge when I was there, and she had some weird boyfriend and a yapping little dog, and they were screaming at the attendant to keep the place open (it was supposed to close).

I wanted to punch both of them out.

///sorry for the off-topic rant.

That's what camera recordings are for.
 
I've wondered about this ever since a girl I knew confessed this to her friend, who in turn told me. Her fantasy was being raped by a burglar in the middle of the night.

Needless to say I was like WTF:eek: that chick is whack. However she seemed perfectly normal in all other respects.

LOL! You guys are so young....
 
Wonder if a women has ever thought to herself after taking biology and some physiology, what exactly makes a manly man?

1. The majority of men share very similar Y chromosomes. And depending on your ethnic origins in might very well be homogenous in your ancestors.
2. The default sex path is female. Male development is switched on late in the Uterus. Also, the development only completes at puberty.
3. The vast majority of our reproductive hardware and differentiation is exclusive to the X chromosome. You can look it up but XY-females and XX-males are possible. You don't even need a SRY gene from the Y chromosome unlike what is taught in alot of biology classes.
 
She could be the Frank Luntz of sexology.
:eek: Please don't EVER use the phrase "Frank Luntz" and the word "sex" in the same sentence!!! :mad: :(
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I know what women want... it's easy... they all want security. And I know this because every time I try and approach one they are always yelling for security...:o
 
My take

Just meant I wasn't going to hold a door. The way I see it's like, why should I give any effort at all? In my opinion, the men of 50 years ago weren't any better than the ones of today.

I'll give you my two cents, bought through hard experience.

No woman worth having wants a man she can push around. Simple as that. That means women are attracted to men that are confident, a little indifferent to the woman (especially at the seduction phase), even a bit scary physically, intellectually, and emotionally. They are not attracted to a man they think they have in the bag. They should never doubt they can lose you if they don't treat you right.

Want to turn a woman off instantly? Let her think she has you wrapped around her finger. Want to turn her on? Let her know in no uncertain terms that you will not stand for the slightest disrespect from her. Insist on holding your own reigns and let her know she can take a hike if she doesn't like it.

The real essence of it is this, a man must prefer to be alone the rest of his life than spend one minute with a woman who wants to be his boss or treats him disrespectfully. And why would you want to be with such a woman anyway? Once you really have that attitude and LIVE it, you will have all the women you want. It is one of those paradoxes in life - the second you realize you can be happy without a woman, you don't have to be.

This doesn't mean you need to be a dick, although every guy knows that the guys who got most of the girls in high school WERE dicks. It DOES mean that you have to be ready to say "fuck off" to ANY woman who does not treat you properly and the second you can't, you are hosed.

The rape fantasy is simply an expression of a woman's erotic attraction to men who take control. So take control. Not with a knife, fool, with your attitude. Don't be a selfish asshole or an abusive jerk. But take control. Be decisive. And then look out for her interests.

Most women will be turned on by a guy who takes control and then uses his power in the relationship to take care of her. You are doing her a favor by being a confident, dominant man.
 
I know what women want... it's easy... they all want security. And I know this because every time I try and approach one they are always yelling for security...:o

BWWAAAAHHAHHAHHHA

The article is crap, but the subject is a good one. As an older woman, what I've wanted has changed through the years (and no I'm not going into details....) but I've always enjoyed a man who is intelligent, confident, witty and a sense of adventure. My men have varied from having absolutely nothing to their name to owning corporations and flying their own jet, of course this has been over the course of over 35 yrs of "activity" and three marriages.......(I have it right now.)

As far as the fantasy rape stuff, well, the mind is a wonderous and awesome thing, and sometimes, without you being "in control" can throw you a whammy in your dreams. I've had some doozies, as far as dreams go, but when you talk about fantasy, like when you are awake, rape scenes are not for me -- I'll stick to the "funner" stuff.....
 
I'll give you my two cents, bought through hard experience.

No woman worth having wants a man she can push around. Simple as that. That means women are attracted to men that are confident, a little indifferent to the woman (especially at the seduction phase), even a bit scary physically, intellectually, and emotionally. They are not attracted to a man they think they have in the bag. They should never doubt they can lose you if they don't treat you right.

Want to turn a woman off instantly? Let her think she has you wrapped around her finger. Want to turn her on? Let her know in no uncertain terms that you will not stand for the slightest disrespect from her. Insist on holding your own reigns and let her know she can take a hike if she doesn't like it.

The real essence of it is this, a man must prefer to be alone the rest of his life than spend one minute with a woman who wants to be his boss or treats him disrespectfully. And why would you want to be with such a woman anyway? Once you really have that attitude and LIVE it, you will have all the women you want. It is one of those paradoxes in life - the second you realize you can be happy without a woman, you don't have to be.

This doesn't mean you need to be a dick, although every guy knows that the guys who got most of the girls in high school WERE dicks. It DOES mean that you have to be ready to say "fuck off" to ANY woman who does not treat you properly and the second you can't, you are hosed.

The rape fantasy is simply an expression of a woman's erotic attraction to men who take control. So take control. Not with a knife, fool, with your attitude. Don't be a selfish asshole or an abusive jerk. But take control. Be decisive. And then look out for her interests.

Most women will be turned on by a guy who takes control and then uses his power in the relationship to take care of her. You are doing her a favor by being a confident, dominant man.

This paradox is ridiculous. Here's my perspective:
Any woman who would take advantage of me, or who would leave me simply because taking advantage of me would be easy to do (and she wants someone "tougher"), is simply too cold and heartless to really deserve my attention in the first place. I can't be the confident, almost "indifferent" manly man all the time, because what good is a relationship if you're not allowed to actually open up emotionally, be human, and above all, actually be honest about your own feelings instead of playing childish, selfish, and manipulative games revolving around power and dominance? :rolleyes:

I don't want anything to do with the kind of shallow woman who wants the perfect, dominant caricature of a man with unassailable confidence and no emotional needs or vulnerabilities. Of course, if I make my view clear and treat women that way right from the start - as if I wouldn't really go out of my way for them and as if they don't really mean that much to me (or that the relationship doesn't) - then I'll instantly become desirable to them...however, that's exactly what I don't want! You said, "Once you really have that attitude and LIVE it, you will have all the women you want. It is one of those paradoxes in life - the second you realize you can be happy without a woman, you don't have to be." I can't help but think the sentence continues, "...because from that point forward, all of the wrong kind of women will be showering you with attention!"

Deep down, at least as far as long-term relationship material goes, I want to turn off those kinds of women, precisely because they're not worth my time, and I'd be miserable with them, constantly having to act like someone I'm not...plus, acting that way would turn off the kind of women who I am interested in: I'm interested in the kind of women who actually view men as equal human beings and treat them with consideration by default - not just because the man is tough and assertive enough not to ever put up with shit, but because the woman is too good of a person to ever try it in the first place. I don't want a woman who will walk all over me or leave me in "disgust" at some vulnerable moment or during a rough time; I want the kind of woman who will be there for me during those times (especially considering rough times are already, by definition, rough), just like I would be there for her when she needs it. She should do this not just because I'm dominant enough that she'd be afraid to do anything else (lest she lose me), but because it's just the right thing to do...and that's on top of the whole idea that she should care about me in the first place, just as I presumably would care about her.

Still, I can't trust someone who wouldn't take advantage of me just because of who I am or how I act with them, or even because they care about me specifically (although that part helps a lot); I can only trust someone who wouldn't purposely hurt anyone at all, simply because they're too good of a person to do so. Deep down, it's an absolute requirement for me that I be with a compassionate, morally consistent person...and it's unfortunate that you can't really figure out if someone measures up until long after you develop feelings for her that are hard to let go of, no matter how much you want to or know you should.

This is different from the confidence aspect, but there's a parallel: I wear decent clothes when I go out, but I don't obsess over it. My sister asked me recently why I don't care about dressing fashionably and keeping up with the latest trends...the answer is, while I care about looking moderately attractive, I purposely want to avoid the shallow kinds of women who will write off a guy just because he's not cosmopolitan or trendy enough. It's a different situation, but it's the same idea...I'm "supposed" to dress/act in a certain way to be desirable, but if I did, I'd attract the wrong kind of women.

Back to the main topic though:
I'm always hearing women say something to the effect of, "Women want confident guys who are strong and dominant and who aren't easy to walk all over." You know what men like me want? Men like me just want women who are completely above playing manipulative emotional games in relationships. Sadly, it seems like those kind of women are quite rare...so that means I'll either get lucky and end up with one, or I'll end up lonely after a string of disappointments. I've been single for quite a while now (years), so at this particular moment I can't really be bothered to care all that much...but I imagine a lot of guys feel the same way in terms of what kind of woman they're looking for and unable to find.
 
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"According to an analysis of relevant studies published last year in The Journal of Sex Research, an analysis that defines rape as involving “the use of physical force, threat of force, or incapacitation through, for example, sleep or intoxication, to coerce a woman into sexual activity against her will,” between one-third and more than one-half of women have entertained such fantasies, often during intercourse, with at least 1 in 10 women fantasizing about sexual assault at least once per month in a pleasurable way."

Umm, I'm going to assume two things when interpreting this

1. The guy has to be really attractive, perhaps more attractive than the women. In which case, the guy wouldn't need to rape people to get laid in the first place.

and / or

2. By 'rape', most of them mean just playing out the rape fantasy with their boyfriend. Its rough sex that is not really against her will, she pretends to resist and he pretends to be a rapist.

Or maybe their just mentally disturbed, and like the abuse.
 
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