WHAT? Barry Goldwater jr. endorsed McCain?

[crazyfingers]

Wait, am I hearing that right? Mr. Sabrin who is supposedly the next Ron Paul according to a lot of peeps has endorsed McCain? On a side note, I have officially lost all respect for Mr. Goldwater after hearing this news.

Well the Sabrin endorsement makes sense. If he wanted any chance of winning today's GOP primary, he had to get behind McCain as the presumptive nominee. Even with that endorsment he is still largely viewed as an outsider.

I'm not sure about Goldwater. He probably honestly believes McCain wouldn't be as bad as Obama...especially if the Democrats continue to hold onto both legislative bodies as it appears the case is going to be.

 

[kombayn]

Barry Goldwater, Jr. doesn't want the Dems to get into office. It's his choice to endorse McCain. I don't care either way, it's not going to sway me. I will never vote for a war-monger like John McCain, even if you put a gun to my head... It's about principles. I'd rather vote Ralph Nader (shudders).

 

[jmdrake]

I suppose it isn't that surprising that the MSM has devolved and denigraded to the point where they would actually spin that into an endorsement, either. Nonetheless, it is pretty damned disgusting.

It reads like, "Well we are forcing you to choose!

Remember when someone tried to spin Ron Paul saying that Obama's foreign policy sounded better but his voting record didn't back it up as an endorsement of Obama?

 

[fr33domfightr]

I attended the OC GOP CC meeting as well, and I heard him say it myself. There's no media spin here.

Richie has gotten it right. It's about trying to unite the Party, that's why he made the endorsement.

At the Q&A session, a Ron Paul supporter asked him if it's true he supported Ron Paul (so the members would hear it), and he agreed, saying he did support Ron Paul. But now we have the presumptive nominee, he said, and he felt we should unite behind the person we have, John McCain.

In his defense, he realized that John McCain isn't a conservative. He wanted to get the nominee in office first, "just get 'em in office," something his father would say, then "MOLD THEM TO OUR LIKING" [paraphrased] (when he said this he raised his voice and made a twisting motion with a clinched fist). Emphasizing this to make the case we could force him to our way of thinking.

The problem I see is, we're on the West Coast, McCain would be in Washington D.C. with all the other politicians that have been influenced by all the lobbyists. He's shown contempt of those who would question him or his legislation, so I *really* don't expect him to act any different as president.

If the GOP were organized from the bottom up, I could see us looking at possible contenders and selecting some to run, to represent the Party. What occurs now is, either someone within the Party will just run, or those at the upper levels of the National Party will just make a selection (perhaps?), without any regards to the grassroots feelings? This could be what occurs, but since the National Party officials are so disconnected from the base, the nominee doesn't reflect the feelings of the base.

FF

 

[jumpyg1258]

Well the Sabrin endorsement makes sense. If he wanted any chance of winning today's GOP primary, he had to get behind McCain as the presumptive nominee. Even with that endorsment he is still largely viewed as an outsider.

Well hearing that has made me lose all confidence in Sabrin. The reason why I like Paul so much is cause he stands up for what he believes in and refuses to endorse evil things or people like McCain.

 

[SteveMartin]

Yep...makes you wonder how Sabrin ever got Paul's endorsement in the first place. He must be a dyed-in-the-wool "conspiracy nut" hater. Those are the only people getting endorsements from Lizardo.

 

[alaric]

I found a similar article. It's not the one that I read a while back, but its similar...

"Goldwater Jr., who supported Ron Paul during the Republican primary, plans to vote for McCain in the general election and believes that his father would do the same."



http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/mccain-goldwate.html

I think this made his father wake up and puke all over him

 

[PaulineDisciple]

I had the opportunity to talk with Barry Goldwater Jr when he came to Kansas to give a speech for Ron Paul at the Kansas Caucus. I gave him a ride to one of his friends house in the KC area and so I had about 30 minutes of his undivided attention. Sorry to say, I was not very impressed with his understanding of the issues that conservatives are facing today. Compromise after we have only given over so many of our liberties is the last thing that we should be doing to further our cause. After this talk, I got the impression that he had spent most of his life riding on the coat-tails of his father and not fully owning the conservative philosophy for himself. Just my two cents.

 

[westmich4paul]

I am actually kind of shocked at some of the comments on this post. What would we say as Revolution supporters if tomorrow Ron Paul endorsed John McCain? Reasonong being that he wanted to keep in goog with the GOP. I am apalled to think that we not only had people like this endorse Ron's Campaign but that we actually helped support people like Sabin who now have shown "true colors".

I will never support John McCain, and frankly do not give a rats ass about how the GOP feels about this. I will never ever give up my principles for Party loyalty and to those that do I say we tar and feather just like days of old. Treasonous cowards!

 

[yaz]

I had the opportunity to talk with Barry Goldwater Jr when he came to Kansas to give a speech for Ron Paul at the Kansas Caucus. I gave him a ride to one of his friends house in the KC area and so I had about 30 minutes of his undivided attention. Sorry to say, I was not very impressed with his understanding of the issues that conservatives are facing today. Compromise after we have only given over so many of our liberties is the last thing that we should be doing to further our cause. After this talk, I got the impression that he had spent most of his life riding on the coat-tails of his father and not fully owning the conservative philosophy for himself. Just my two cents.

+9999999999

That was exactly my thought after watching him interviewed on Fox News speaking for Ron Paul. He is still not a bad guy though.

 

[SteveMartin]

What would we say as Revolution supporters if tomorrow Ron Paul endorsed John McCain?

I'd say either Ron Paul was a total phony in the best tradition of Pat Buchanan and Ross Perot, or that he had done so with a gun (literally) pointed at his head and the heads of his children and grandchildren.

There is absolutely NO CIRCUMSTANCE under which anyone professing to be a patriot and a supporter of the Constitution could endorse a horrendous NWO stooge and morally-depraved and soulless monster like John McCain and retain any credibility within the patriot community.

 

[Thomas Paine]

I don't have time to read through all the responses in this thread but at the risk of having rotten tomatoes thrown at me, I agree with the sentiment that Barry Goldwater, Sr. would have endorsed John McCain as the GOP nominee.

In 1952, Barry Goldwater, Sr. supported the moderate GOP candidate, Dwight Eisenhower, even though his favorite candidate, Senator Robert Taft, was narrowly defeated. In 1960, Barry Goldwater, Sr. supported Richard Nixon as the GOP nominee even though Nixon was not his favorite choice.

In short, Barry Goldwater, Sr. practiced fighting for his conservative ideals and for the conservative candidate(s) but once a GOP nominee was selected, then the time for internal party warfare ceased and it became time to support that GOP nominee. I find nothing wrong with Barry Goldwater, Sr.'s example. I detest John McCain but detest Barack Hussein Obama even more given what I have learned about the latter over the past few months.

 

[Carole]

Thank you for the link and hope all vote in the poll.

 

[Carole]

I am actually kind of shocked at some of the comments on this post. What would we say as Revolution supporters if tomorrow Ron Paul endorsed John McCain? Reasonong being that he wanted to keep in goog with the GOP. I am apalled to think that we not only had people like this endorse Ron's Campaign but that we actually helped support people like Sabin who now have shown "true colors".

I will never support John McCain, and frankly do not give a rats ass about how the GOP feels about this. I will never ever give up my principles for Party loyalty and to those that do I say we tar and feather just like days of old. Treasonous cowards!

I would have to say his entire philosophy was a lie. Dr. Paul would not endorse McInSane. They are political opposites. Unless McInSane did a complete turnabout.

Even Dr. Paul told a cable news interviewer that he could only endorse McInSane if he changed completely and followed the Constitution.

 

[Kludge]

Boos for booze. Exhume Goldwater senior '08

 

[SLSteven]

I don't have time to read through all the responses in this thread but at the risk of having rotten tomatoes thrown at me, I agree with the sentiment that Barry Goldwater, Sr. would have endorsed John McCain as the GOP nominee.

In 1952, Barry Goldwater, Sr. supported the moderate GOP candidate, Dwight Eisenhower, even though his favorite candidate, Senator Robert Taft, was narrowly defeated. In 1960, Barry Goldwater, Sr. supported Richard Nixon as the GOP nominee even though Nixon was not his favorite choice.

In short, Barry Goldwater, Sr. practiced fighting for his conservative ideals and for the conservative candidate(s) but once a GOP nominee was selected, then the time for internal party warfare ceased and it became time to support that GOP nominee. I find nothing wrong with Barry Goldwater, Sr.'s example. I detest John McCain but detest Barack Hussein Obama even more given what I have learned about the latter over the past few months.

This backing off from one's principles and coming together to support the nominee makes a certain amount of sense only as long as the nominee is not too objectionable to those principles. In this case the Republicans have gone with a near-Democrat and we need to make a stand.

 

[Thomas Paine]

This backing off from one's principles and coming together to support the nominee makes a certain amount of sense only as long as the nominee is not too objectionable to those principles. In this case the Republicans have gone with a near-Democrat and we need to make a stand.

If McCain nominates an acceptable VP like Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, Governor Bobby Jindal, or SC Governor Mark Sanford, then I will be able to support the GOP ticket with the possibility existing that such a conservative VP will be elevated to President if McCain doesn't finish out his first term in office.

 

[amy31416]

This backing off from one's principles and coming together to support the nominee makes a certain amount of sense only as long as the nominee is not too objectionable to those principles. In this case the Republicans have gone with a near-Democrat and we need to make a stand.

 

[wowabunga]

There is absolutely NO CIRCUMSTANCE under which anyone professing to be a patriot and a supporter of the Constitution could endorse a horrendous NWO stooge and morally-depraved and soulless monster like John McCain and retain any credibility within the patriot community.

Hey Steve why don't you tell us how you really feel...!

 

[alaric]

If McCain nominates an acceptable VP like Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, Governor Bobby Jindal, or SC Governor Mark Sanford, then I will be able to support the GOP ticket with the possibility existing that such a conservative VP will be elevated to President if McCain doesn't finish out his first term in office.

cross off sanford. He attended bilderberg this year
and i think he would have to have God as his vp to get my vote. At least God could tell him what to do!