WHAT? Barry Goldwater jr. endorsed McCain?

[Truth Warrior]

I don't know if it is that surprising that he said he prefers McCain over Obama if he was forced to choose.

Yep, gotta stay in the good graces of the GOP..... cuz ya just never know what the future may bring. There's no point really in burning "political" bridges.

Maybe Barry "learned the lessons" from Ron's recent GOP experiences.

 

[acptulsa]

I don't know if it is that surprising that he said he prefers McCain over Obama if he was forced to choose.

I suppose it isn't that surprising that the MSM has devolved and denigraded to the point where they would actually spin that into an endorsement, either. Nonetheless, it is pretty damned disgusting.

It reads like, "Well we are forcing you to choose!

 

[Richie]

Murray Sabrin, a "Ron Paul Republican" for U.S. Senate, has stated that he would be willing to vote for (or even endorse) John McCain in the general election. Today, Mr. Sabrin's big day, everybody on this forum is rallying behind his candidacy.

If Barry Goldwater Jr. is a sellout for endorsing the lesser of the evils (a crime 80% of the people on this forum have committed), Murray Sabrin is also a sellout. Note: I don't actually believe that Sen. Goldwater Jr. and Mr. Sabrin are sellouts. I'm just making a point.

Party politics is evil. When a party nominates a candidate, you, as a member of that party, are expected to get behind that candidate and work to "unite" the party. What if that candidate is somebody bad for the country? In party politics, that doesn't matter. If we're going to be "taking over the GOP," we need to get used to it. Note: I'm not advocating voting for the lesser of the evils. I intend to cast my vote to Chuck Baldwin. I'm simply stating that with political parties comes party politics, and we need to accept that.

 

[DealzOnWheelz]

Murray Sabrin, a "Ron Paul Republican" for U.S. Senate, has stated that he would be willing to vote for (or even endorse) John McCain in the general election. Today, Mr. Sabrin's big day, everybody on this forum is rallying behind his candidacy.

If Barry Goldwater Jr. is a sellout for endorsing the lesser of the evils (a crime 80% of the people on this forum have committed), Murray Sabrin is also a sellout. Note: I don't actually believe that Sen. Goldwater Jr. and Mr. Sabrin are sellouts. I'm just making a point.

Party politics is evil. When a party nominates a candidate, you, as a member of that party, are expected to get behind that candidate and work to "unite" the party. What if that candidate is somebody bad for the country? In party politics, that doesn't matter. If we're going to be "taking over the GOP," we need to get used to it. Note: I'm not advocating voting for the lesser of the evils. I intend to cast my vote to Chuck Baldwin. I'm simply stating that with political parties comes party politics, and we need to accept that.

QFT +1

 

[acptulsa]

I'm simply stating that with political parties comes party politics, and we need to accept that.

On the other hand, you and I both know that this is how they've shoved so much crap by us over the years.

 

[BenIsForRon]

Goldwater Jr. did endorse McCain. John Dean, who recently wrote a book with him on Goldwater Sr., was on Olbermann a few weeks back talking about the book. He mentioned that Jr. endorsed McCain only because, in Goldwater Jr.'s opinion, McCain would be better than the two democrats. He went on to say that Jr. initially strongly endorsed Ron Paul, and they both (Dean and Jr.) believed that Sr. would have done the same. Dean even said that Sr. probably wouldn't have changed his endorsement to McCain like his son did.

Funny I didn't mention this when it happened, as it was one the ultra rare mentions of Ron Paul on Olbermann's show.

 

[Aratus]

is barry goldwater jr. hinting to ron paul that them "dems" have a deal in the works? and its party tyme?

 

[christagious]

the lesser of the evils (a crime 80% of the people on this forum have committed).........
When a party nominates a candidate, you, as a member of that party, are expected to get behind that candidate and work to "unite" the party........ If we're going to be "taking over the GOP," we need to get used to it. Note: I'm not advocating voting for the lesser of the evils. I intend to cast my vote to Chuck Baldwin. I'm simply stating that with political parties comes party politics, and we need to accept that.

Well, I'm glad you're not voting for the lesser of the evils. I'm against the party-faithful politics, it's evil like you said. Personally, I'll either be writing in Ron Paul, maybe vote Baldwin (after doing some research), or I'll leave the president spot blank. Personally (again), I'd rather see the Democrat nominee beat McCain because that'll give us 4 more years to rally behind another 'Ron Paul Candidate'. If McCain wins, we'll be stuck waiting 8 years versus 4, and a lot can happen in for years, even more can happen in 8. I think some people need to step up early in terms of running in 2012 so RP can pass the torch on and it gives us a lot of time to get that person some attention because you know they'll be marginalized like Ron Paul was in the media.

 

[pinkmandy]

Murray Sabrin, a "Ron Paul Republican" for U.S. Senate, has stated that he would be willing to vote for (or even endorse) John McCain in the general election. Today, Mr. Sabrin's big day, everybody on this forum is rallying behind his candidacy.

If Barry Goldwater Jr. is a sellout for endorsing the lesser of the evils (a crime 80% of the people on this forum have committed), Murray Sabrin is also a sellout. Note: I don't actually believe that Sen. Goldwater Jr. and Mr. Sabrin are sellouts. I'm just making a point.

Party politics is evil. When a party nominates a candidate, you, as a member of that party, are expected to get behind that candidate and work to "unite" the party. What if that candidate is somebody bad for the country? In party politics, that doesn't matter. If we're going to be "taking over the GOP," we need to get used to it. Note: I'm not advocating voting for the lesser of the evils. I intend to cast my vote to Chuck Baldwin. I'm simply stating that with political parties comes party politics, and we need to accept that.

I do get your point but when the party members put the "party" above the principles said party was founded upon then it is also the members' responsibility to stand up up and acknowledge that principles are more important *if* you're a member of a party in order to promote those principles. That is what Dr. Paul is doing, what we're doing. If Dr. Paul can stand his ground and not endorse John McCain on principle, why can't others?

“Be the change you want to see in the world.” ~ Gandhi

 

[JMann]

I don't know if it is that surprising that he said he prefers McCain over Obama if he was forced to choose.

As awful as McCain is he is so much better than O! it isn't even close. I think McCain at least as some degree of faith in free markets and capitalism. I have no doubt O! is a straight-up Marxist. Both will have no problem with foreign intervention. Given this choice you have to go with McCain.

Most politically sensible people don't consider third parties however I think Barr could mix things up this year.

 

[MikeStanart]

It's called playing politics.

Even though he might not like Mccain, perhaps he's doing it to keep his wedge in the Republican Party?

Strategy, people.


This movement needs people on both fronts.

Inside the party to influence within,

And an outside force calling the Republican Party back to it's Conservative roots.

 

[winston_blade]

It's called playing politics.

Even though he might not like Mccain, perhaps he's doing it to keep his wedge in the Republican Party?

Strategy, people.


This movement needs people on both fronts.

Inside the party to influence within,

And an outside force calling the Republican Party back to it's Conservative roots.

You have to at least to appear to endorse the candidate if you want to be elected to office. Strategy = good.

 

[ARealConservative]

As awful as McCain is he is so much better than O! it isn't even close. I think McCain at least as some degree of faith in free markets and capitalism. I have no doubt O! is a straight-up Marxist. Both will have no problem with foreign intervention. Given this choice you have to go with McCain.

Most politically sensible people don't consider third parties however I think Barr could mix things up this year.

I don't know about so much better - but in the end he would appoint less evil judges to SCOTUS.

And unlike Obama, he pretends to be for less government, so atleast he occasionally says things we like to hear.

Plus, the dems will control congress - if they also control the executive branch things will get uglier fast.

but still.....who can vote for McCain and sleep at night?

 

[freelance]

Goldwater Jr. did endorse McCain. John Dean, who recently wrote a book with him on Goldwater Sr., was on Olbermann a few weeks back talking about the book. He mentioned that Jr. endorsed McCain only because, in Goldwater Jr.'s opinion, McCain would be better than the two democrats. He went on to say that Jr. initially strongly endorsed Ron Paul, and they both (Dean and Jr.) believed that Sr. would have done the same. Dean even said that Sr. probably wouldn't have changed his endorsement to McCain like his son did.

Funny I didn't mention this when it happened, as it was one the ultra rare mentions of Ron Paul on Olbermann's show.

Oh yeah, I saw that. KO totally ignored the comment.

Murray Sabrin, a "Ron Paul Republican" for U.S. Senate, has stated that he would be willing to vote for (or even endorse) John McCain in the general election.

WOW! Just WOW! I'm sick about this.

 

[Allan Bartlett]

It's True.....

I was the one quoted by Dena Bunis in the article. It is true. Barry Goldwater Jr endorsed Ron Paul last year, but he did endorse John McCain at our Orange County,CA GOP Central Committee Meeting where he was the guest of honor a few weeks ago. Mr Goldwater said he endorsed Ron Paul because first of all, Ron asked for the endorsement and they served together in Congress. Once McCain had enough delegates for the GOP nomination, he changed his mind and went with the presumptive nominee. Here is a picture of me with the former Congressman at our recent Central Committee meeting.

http://powderbluereport.blogspot.com

 

[surf]

If Barry Goldwater Jr. is a sellout for endorsing the lesser of the evils (a crime 80% of the people on this forum have committed)

i think you're overstating this; i don't for a second believe i'm among only 20% of the folks on this forum that haven't sold out at some point (i write myself in)

 

[goldstandard]

In my opinion, this is a dumb strategy of Goldwater jr.

If he wants to return the party to its principles there is no other way than to endorse Ron Paul. But not only will he vote for McCain, he endorsed him. And Paul is still in the race.

I think it comes down to principles. If the Republican Party wants John McCain they are going into the wrong direction. They will stray further form their principles and lose more votes.

At one point you have to defend the principles and not some nominee. That's also party politics, long term.

 

[SteveMartin]

Barry Goldwater, Jr. is no friend of mine if he has endorsed McCain. The same is true of Murray Sabrin.

I am sick and tired of fair weather patriots.

McCain is WORSE than Obama if you value peace and a nation not under military attack by most of the world.

 

[Dorfsmith]

Strategy or no strategy, an endorsement of McCain puts you on the fast track to my "people I don't like" list. Barry lost my respect.

 

[jumpyg1258]

Barry Goldwater, Jr. is no friend of mine if he has endorsed McCain. The same is true of Murray Sabrin.

Wait, am I hearing that right? Mr. Sabrin who is supposedly the next Ron Paul according to a lot of peeps has endorsed McCain? On a side note, I have officially lost all respect for Mr. Goldwater after hearing this news.