Well, horse-puckey. What should I do?

The 14th Amendment basically limits States and Local laws to anything not protected within the constitution. If the constitution allows it a state cannot restrict it. At least this has always been my interpretation.
 
Bump for BLS:
http://ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=24378

Well, the city attorney called me.
they said they believe the code is within the US Consitution and they demand I take it down.

I told them to SHOVE IT.

I told them I would send them cases where they cannot violate common neutrality without censorship.

I need help sending him an email filled with articles and US Supreme Court rulings on this.
 
I wrote:


And you replied:


Hi trispear, I think that is my point. The first amendment doesn't guarantee you freedom of speech, religion, etc. The first amendment forbids the federal government from making laws abridging such freedoms. This is not a first amendment issue because we are talking about state or city laws, not federal laws. I really think people severely misunderstand the 1st amendment.

I am certainly no constitutional scholar but the only way I can see this having anything to do with the constitution is maybe you could make a 9th amendment argument? I don't see how the 14th amendment applies here either. Again, I am no constitutional scholar so someone please tell me where I am mistaken about this.

The 14th Amendment Due Process Clause incorporates many, but not all, of Bill of Rights to be applicable to the States.

There was a thread around here (I'll look around for it) about the sign in Florida. Political signs are extremely protected by the USSC. The ACLU has won a couple recent cases on the issue.

Found it. That ought to scare them off.
 
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Here's my proposed letter (sent to BLS already):

*NOT LEGAL ADVICE*

October 11, 2007

YOUR NAME HERE
YOUR STREET ADDRESS HERE
YOUR CITY, STATE & ZIP CODE HERE

Kari Barker
Associate Planner
City of Hastings
101 4th Street East
Hastings, MN 55033

To Whom It May Concern:

I was recently given a notice that I may not display a non-commercial sign on my own property because doing so violated a non-specified section of the City of Hastings’ Code. I believe that I have located the applicable code section on my own, and believe that the code – both facially and as applied against me – violates both the 1st Amendment to the United States Constitution (as applied against state and local governments via the 14th Amendment) and Article I, § 3 of the Minnesota Constitution (“The liberty of the press shall forever remain inviolate, and all persons may freely speak, write and publish their sentiments on all subjects, being responsible for the abuse of such right.”).

The following is the relevant language of the Hastings Code § 155.08(C) (governing signs that do not require permits):

(C) Signs permitted without a permit.

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(3) Election/campaign signs on private property provided the signs are posted no sooner than 100 days before a city, school, county, state, or federal election and removed within 10 days following an election. No election signs shall be affixed to utility poles;

(4) Real estate, lease, and rental signs not more than 15 square feet for residentially zoned property and 32 square feet for non-residentially zoned property provided only 1 sign per street frontage upon which the property to be sold or leased abuts[.]​

Could you please explain to me how § 155.08, which provides greater rights for commercial speech (real estate signs) than political speech, is distinguishable from similar ordinances held unconstitutional in the following cases?

In Whitton v. City of Gladstone, Mo., 54 F. 3d 1400 (8th Cir. 1995), the 8th Circuit addressed an ordinance that restricted the display of political campaign signs on private property to no earlier than 30 days before an election and no later than 7 days after an election. Other types of signs were allowed to remain on display without such temporal restrictions. The Court held that the ordinance violated the 1st Amendment because it was not “content neutral” and could not, therefore, survive the “strict scrutiny” standard required for such a content-based restriction.

In Goward v. City of Minneapolis, 456 N.W. 2d 460 (1990), the Minnesota Court of Appeals struck down a city ordinance that allowed the display of “for sale” and “for rent” signs on private property while placing different restrictions on non-commercial opinion signs. The Court based its decision on its finding that the regulations were not “content neutral” time, place, and manner restrictions, and were, therefore, invalid under the 1st Amendment.

Please provide written confirmation, by 5 p.m. on October 12, 2007, that you will not take any enforcement action against me, and that my sign may remain on display or I will be forced to seek relief in federal court.

Sincerely,

YOUR NAME HERE



cc: John Hinzman, Planning Director
Dave Osberg, City Administrator
Shawn Moynihan, City Attorney
 
Good letter -- follows the same structure as a letter by an attorney that was posted in the other thread and citing to MN App. Ct. was a nice touch. For the federal case, is MN in the 8th Circuit? I don't know, so I'm curious. If so, kudos.

It had to take quite some time to do this research, so please know that your efforts are appreciated (even though I'm not the one experiencing the problem).
 
Good letter -- follows the same structure as a letter by an attorney that was posted in the other thread and citing to MN App. Ct. was a nice touch. For the federal case, is MN in the 8th Circuit? I don't know, so I'm curious. If so, kudos.

It had to take quite some time to do this research, so please know that your efforts are appreciated (even though I'm not the one experiencing the problem).

I cited the 8th Circuit case specifically because Minnesota is in the 8th Circuit; good observation on your part.

I appreciate the thanks, but I do this for the man (not to be confused with the Man) -- RP -- and because I like to stick it to the Man (not to be confused with the man).
 
I'm fighting this all day long. I have a dentists appointment and then I'm calling the ACLU and the local media.

BLS, I just had to throw my hat in the ring to commend you for maintaining the warrior's spirit and FIGHTING this tyranny. SDMF FOREVER
 
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