Well, horse-puckey. What should I do?

bbachtung said:
There are 100 pages of regulations in your city governing land usage alone (they don't have enough time on their hands). The PDF is here http://www.ci.hastings.mn.us/InsideCityHall/Ordinances/CodeTitle15/CodeTitle15.155.pdf

The definition for banner is:



The good news is that if you put it on a pole, then it magically turns into a flag:



Just be careful around those code enforcement officers, the BTK serial killer was one of the most dedicated code enforcement officers in Wichita, KS.
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Wow..YOU DA MAN.

So, does the code state that I cannot use a banner?
 
Send them a copy of Ladue V Gilleo

Ladue V Gilleo is a unanimous supreme court ruling that overturns a local ban on political signs and calls into question the constitutionality of any ordinance that bans signs on private property, and particularly any ordinance that singles out types signs while allowing others.

This case has been used successfully by gunssavelife.com and others to defend their rights to post sings with political messages on private property.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/92-1856.ZO.html
 
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bdmarti said:
Ladue V Gilleo is a unanimous supreme court ruling that overturns a local ban on political signs and calls into question the constitutionality of any ordinance that bans signs on property, and particularly andy ordinance that singles out types signs while allowing others.

This case has been used successfully by gunssavelife.com and others to defend their rights to post sings with political messages on private property.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/92-1856.ZO.html
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^
Political signs are a form of speech. You're exercising your right to use said speech freely. Any idiot can see that you'd win a case against the town. I say keep it up and sue your stinky town bankrupt if they try to fine you.
 
bbachtung said:
There are 100 pages of regulations in your city governing land usage alone (they don't have enough time on their hands). The PDF is here http://www.ci.hastings.mn.us/InsideCityHall/Ordinances/CodeTitle15/CodeTitle15.155.pdf

The definition for banner is:



The good news is that if you put it on a pole, then it magically turns into a flag:



Just be careful around those code enforcement officers, the BTK serial killer was one of the most dedicated code enforcement officers in Wichita, KS.
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ROFL these laws are ridiculous, listen to this one:
No trespass/no hunting and similar signs not to exceed 2 square feet in size may be placed on private property;
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BLS, I was thinking the Mn Primary was sooner. I still think this is something you can, and should fight. Based on the Constitution alone, and some of the other arguements posted here.
 
This is a content-based restriction on your right to free speech; you need look no further than the fact that political signs are treated differently under the city ordinance than commercial (real estate) signs:

(4) Real estate, lease, and rental signs not more than 15 square feet for residentially zoned property and 32 square feet for non-residentially zoned property provided only 1 sign per street frontage upon which the property to be sold or leased abuts;
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Contact the ACLU right away (just after you contact the news media).

My wife tells me to stop sounding like a lawyer (I am one, but not licensed in MN), so here goes:

You can't treat one type of speech differently than another type of speech (content-based regulation); it is especially true in this case where non-commercial speech is being treated worse than commercial speech.
 
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heiwa said:
Here's the link to the folks in Florida:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=20415&highlight=aclu

In Peace,
Jen
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Based on that article I would recommend calling the media, and ACLU. Refer them to that link as well since the background is already established. This one is already beat, the city just doesn't know it yet.

(sorry if im diving into this so much, but these are the EXACT things I am fighting for, we have given up too many rights and need a President who will help retore or freedoms and constitution)
 
bbachtung said:
This is a content-based restriction on your right to free speech; you need look no further than the fact that political signs are treated differently under the city ordinance than commercial (real estate) signs:



Contact the ACLU right away (just after you contact the news media).

My wife tells me to stop sounding like a lawyer (I am one, but not licensed in MN), so here goes:

You can't treat one type of speech differently than another type of speech (content-based regulation); it is especially true in this case where non-commercial speech is being treated worse than commercial speech.
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Well, this article explains that my city has the same BS rules where Political signs are censored. He won in a landslide because of the inconsistencies.

" I
simply wasn't going to stand idly by while the City stepped on my
rights as a citizen," Bryan said. Orr researched the ordinance and
found that the regulation did not apply to commercial, real estate, or
any signs other than those of political nature. Certain that political
speech is protected by the First Amendment, Bryan called the ACLU's
Central Florida Regional Office and was delighted to hear what they had to say.

So...do I call her first thing in the morning?
Do I call my contact at the local Fox News Station before?
Or do I just ignore the letter altogether and wait for the sh1+ to hit the fan?
 
Calling the media might work. A lot more people would see the sign, that's for sure.
 
BLS, I LOVE your signs and just wish my yard had enough exposure for something like that to be readily seen.

But, since I don't know the ordinances of your area, I can't say whether they're right or not, but it sounds like complete BLSh!t to me. You should have the right to decorate your property as you wish.

Personally, I'm urked by pink flamingos, holy Mary, and mechanically-pumped water falls, and I don't see people running to city hall to implement ordinances against those in yards.
 
bbachtung said:
This is a content-based restriction on your right to free speech; you need look no further than the fact that political signs are treated differently under the city ordinance than commercial (real estate) signs:



Contact the ACLU right away (just after you contact the news media).

My wife tells me to stop sounding like a lawyer (I am one, but not licensed in MN), so here goes:

You can't treat one type of speech differently than another type of speech (content-based regulation); it is especially true in this case where non-commercial speech is being treated worse than commercial speech.
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First off...I want to thank you for helping me with this.
I will not take anything you say as 'gospel' and I realize you are not giving me legal advice.

2nd....I'm curious what is the BEST method to get media attention to this.
Do I wait...and ignore it? Do I call her and refuse and then tell her I've contacted the ACLU?
Do I contact the media first, before I have a real 'fight' on my hands?
 
OK...I've called and left a message with the ACLU.
If I don't hear anything by morning, I'll call them again around lunch time.

I'm going to fight this. All the support you guys have given me convinced me to bite the bullet.
 
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