Jordan, you either seem to like to use guilt (which is a form of psychological force) or you call me names (in another thread you said I need to stop acting like I'm so great, or something to that effect), or accuse me of doing things I've never done (now you accuse me of giving you the finger.. ?).
You make websites no one asked you to make and then you complain when I go ahead with plans that everyone here agreed on. You say you don't want to get in a war over which site is "official" and then you give people instructions to have people contact you rather than me... but you don't want to have conflict.. ????? How do we know we can trust you? By the way you approach things I personally don't trust you.. or maybe I should say I don't know what to think of you.
Why don't you just ask me how you can help with these efforts? Why do you try to say things to me that would be offensive (if I cared). The only reason I even respond to you is to try and stave off the division it seems you are bent on creating.
I just don't get it. If you really want to help please stop trying to start fights. Please contact me and ask what you can do. Work with me, not separate from me.
A drop of water on its own cannot accomplish much, but put all the drop of water together and you have the endless power of the oceans.
and btw- back when you originally started getting so upset about all this you said you'd redirect your site to mine when it was up. Why not just keep your promise and work with me rather than trying to divide things up?
Lets make a wave rather than a million little drops.
Alright, I'm done. This is way off either of the topics that have come up in this thread, and is completely irrelevent to the overall goal: electing Ron Paul.
The only reason this conversation happens here is because you refuse to answer PMs. :/
As I understood it, a plurality agreed we needed a site, not that we need a specific site. Which is also completely avoiding the fact that I originally started organizing the ondecember15th.com site for oregoniansforronpaul.com and branched it out later.
I haven't been calling you names Trevor, I've been saying that you need to listen to other more if you are going to be the annointed one. How many people wanted multiple levels of pledging for instance?
You've made yourself hard to access and difficult to reason with, and that is what I have been cautioning, not you as a person or you as a "leader" of sorts.
I kept my word on redirecting ondecember16th.com despite the fact that I still disagree with the one website idea. When I asked if I could simply add to your subscription list, you basically told me "redirect your site and shut up". How that is not a figurative finger, I don't know.
I also kept my word that I firmly beleive multiple sites for events on the 15th are an inherent good thing, and in keeping with that belief I've been linking to other sites off of the one I'm running, thus my claim of consistency and integrity.
But personal integrity mean jack for the goal, which is to help everyone campaign for RP effectively, and honestly I think we're accomplishing that goal in spite of any flaws you or me have.
Anyway, if you want to respond to me, do so in PM. I'm done posting here.
I've been coordinating with my local meetup group and a few in the surrounding states.
