Humphreysguitar
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Yeah, I'm in no way disillusioned. We just got to work harder now that's all.
Go Dr. Paul!
Go Dr. Paul!
We were robbed!
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Iowa is good for a trial run. No disrespect intended. What I mean is ... as the first primary/caucus it gives the candidates and their organization an opportunity to reflect on the job they did. What errors were made, what misjudgments etc. With this as a learning opportunity, RP supporters should now apply what they've learned.
Every primary reveals something new which is why seasoned and winning campaign managers are in demand. Anyway, it should now be obvious the need to have a RP supporter in every precinct watching the count and recording the tally, everyones tally. There is nothing that keeps a person more honest than to have a set of eyes watching what they're doing.
Every primary reveals something new which is why seasoned and winning campaign managers are in demand. Anyway, it should now be obvious the need to have a RP supporter in every precinct watching the count and recording the tally, everyones tally. There is nothing that keeps a person more honest than to have a set of eyes watching what they're doing.
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Seriously? Does anyone else think this is a BAD idea? Was this the correct protocol?
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Hangly Man
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Why does no one keep the paper ballots unless they're trying to hide something?
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They are probably stalling to commit more fraud.
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I can't figure out why the words voter fraud are a hot topic here. I think I need a break from this forum. It's a waste of my time.
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This is strange and I'm no conspiracy theorist because I thought all the results were supposed to be phoned in right away after the vote to the central office in Des Moines to be counted. It's odd it's taking this long.
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No kidding....This is ridiculous....If you don't think vote fraud happens listen to this computer programmer testifying in court. AMAZING http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs
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7 out of 7 strangers I bumped into to last night had never heard of Ron Paul. Zilch... Nada... a whopper'n ZERO PERCENT.
Tonight WE lost because the main stream media WON. WE were not robbed... the media merely did not and will not report on our efforts. Thankfully WE here are a bunch of bright FREE spirited citizens and we will overcome
Last night during our "letter writing party" meetup group effort here in central Pennsylvania, we ran out of envelopes and a pal and I walked down to the store to buy more. There was a Golds Gym opening up a new location in the same strip mall, and they were taking new membership applications. Their presentation was excellent... they were all fit and trim, all dressed up nice, bright colors and posters abound. Unfortunately none of the "20 something crowd" there in the gym had ever heard of Ron Paul. We gave the 7 of them some fliers and put in a few words. (Some positive video in a few days after I do some editing.)
What am I going to do going forward... I'm going to go find me 7 more people who have not heard the message of truth, and after that I'll find 7 more....
Peace and Joy
Ramblin Randy
Tonight WE lost because the main stream media WON. WE were not robbed... the media merely did not and will not report on our efforts. Thankfully WE here are a bunch of bright FREE spirited citizens and we will overcome
Last night during our "letter writing party" meetup group effort here in central Pennsylvania, we ran out of envelopes and a pal and I walked down to the store to buy more. There was a Golds Gym opening up a new location in the same strip mall, and they were taking new membership applications. Their presentation was excellent... they were all fit and trim, all dressed up nice, bright colors and posters abound. Unfortunately none of the "20 something crowd" there in the gym had ever heard of Ron Paul. We gave the 7 of them some fliers and put in a few words. (Some positive video in a few days after I do some editing.)
What am I going to do going forward... I'm going to go find me 7 more people who have not heard the message of truth, and after that I'll find 7 more....
Peace and Joy
Ramblin Randy
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Good idea...
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Of course it was rigged
We all agree that the pre-caucus polls were rigged. We all agree that the media and debate "moderators" were biased against Ron Paul. Of course the vote itself was rigged -- to exactly match the polls.
In an honest election, Ron Paul would have gotten somewhere between 15% and 40%. Instead, they've fixed the results to be just low enough to give him fifth place instead of the third place that many pundits were predicting.
With the enthusiasm behind Ron Paul, supporters were more motivated to
go to the caucus than supporters of other candidates. Plus the polls
were skewed to begin with. The skewed polls said 10%. An unskewed
poll would have been 20%, and the caucus result should have been 40% given the determination of Ron Paul supporters.
Instead, the caucus results are 10% -- exactly matching the polls. The landline polls. Of long-time registered Republican voters. What a coincidence.
But this was to be expected. A lot of us have been at this for many years -- e.g. those in the Libertarian and Constitution Parties. Today's showing is greater than anything accomplished before in either of those two parties. Ron Paul himself is surprised. His message in 2008 is no different than his message in 1988. Ron Paul is not really expecting to win, but is willing to go as far as his followers take him.
The year we reclaim the U.S. for the people will probably not be 2008. We will probably have to get rid of electronic voting first. 2016 may be more realistic -- and that's a lot sooner than I ever expected after the 150,000 vote showings by the Constitution Party in 2000 and 2004.
Every penny we have donated and every hour we have spent has been worth it to spread the message of constitutional liberty. It is paving the way. Take the longer view.
We knew all along that the artificially low polls were meant as a set-up for artificially low election results. It was not a surprise in that respect. It was a pleasant surprise, however, for any liberty-minded observer from the year 2006 or earlier.
We all agree that the pre-caucus polls were rigged. We all agree that the media and debate "moderators" were biased against Ron Paul. Of course the vote itself was rigged -- to exactly match the polls.
In an honest election, Ron Paul would have gotten somewhere between 15% and 40%. Instead, they've fixed the results to be just low enough to give him fifth place instead of the third place that many pundits were predicting.
With the enthusiasm behind Ron Paul, supporters were more motivated to
go to the caucus than supporters of other candidates. Plus the polls
were skewed to begin with. The skewed polls said 10%. An unskewed
poll would have been 20%, and the caucus result should have been 40% given the determination of Ron Paul supporters.
Instead, the caucus results are 10% -- exactly matching the polls. The landline polls. Of long-time registered Republican voters. What a coincidence.
But this was to be expected. A lot of us have been at this for many years -- e.g. those in the Libertarian and Constitution Parties. Today's showing is greater than anything accomplished before in either of those two parties. Ron Paul himself is surprised. His message in 2008 is no different than his message in 1988. Ron Paul is not really expecting to win, but is willing to go as far as his followers take him.
The year we reclaim the U.S. for the people will probably not be 2008. We will probably have to get rid of electronic voting first. 2016 may be more realistic -- and that's a lot sooner than I ever expected after the 150,000 vote showings by the Constitution Party in 2000 and 2004.
Every penny we have donated and every hour we have spent has been worth it to spread the message of constitutional liberty. It is paving the way. Take the longer view.
We knew all along that the artificially low polls were meant as a set-up for artificially low election results. It was not a surprise in that respect. It was a pleasant surprise, however, for any liberty-minded observer from the year 2006 or earlier.
We own the future. If we must steal it, so be it.
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"2016 may be more realistic "
What the hell are you on, this country is going to be a police state before you can blink. There is enough fishy things about the vote tonight to be asking questions. STOP USING MSM SOURCES AS "OFFICIAL".
We can get independent confirmation of tonights results here:
http://libertybroadcastnetwork.org/
What the hell are you on, this country is going to be a police state before you can blink. There is enough fishy things about the vote tonight to be asking questions. STOP USING MSM SOURCES AS "OFFICIAL".
We can get independent confirmation of tonights results here:
http://libertybroadcastnetwork.org/
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I bet they'll have him finish just under 10%
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