We Need the Support of the LBGT Community

[Krugerrand]

With all respect, I seriously don't understand what point you're trying to make here.

I can't tell if you're trolling me, or not.

Either way, I'm here not as a humanitarian asking everyone to accept homosexuality - that's not my problem - I'm hear as a tactician reminding us that we can't pass up the thousands of GOP voters who identify themselves as gay because we think they'd scare off "conservatives". Like I said that's false. The Log Cabin Republicans endorsed McCain in 2008, and he won.

"At risk" women get tested by ultrasound and blood tests to let them know the chances that they may carrying a child with down syndrome.

Blood tests exists today that can tell you if you're going to have a boy or girl as soon as the pregnancy test confirms you're pregnant.

China treats a female baby in the same way we (US medical profession at large) treat a down syndrome baby - abort it.

If homosexuality is genetic - then it eventually can be tested for. If it can be tested for, it can be aborted for. If being a murder is something that can be tested for - it is something that can be aborted for.

At least, that's how I read the point being made.

To the OP point the issue at hand is by whom and to what extent should a proactive message be directed towards the Log Cabin Republicans et al. Did McCain court the LCR endorsement or did it just show up on his doorstep? One of the prevailing thoughts - and to which I subscribe - is that Ron Paul stands to lose more votes by direct courting of LCR endorsements than he stands to gain. That is not to say RP supports can't make the push. But, for RP to actively try and go after LCR's in the primary will hurt him more than it could ever help him.

 

[freedom-maniac]

I agree. It seems like people keep missing the points I made. I never suggested that Dr. Paul should court them, and neither did McCain. The LCRs endorsed McCain because he opposition to gay marriage was less extreme than that of other "front runners", and the supported him as the most likely candidate to beat Romney, who was abominable. They aired several attack ads against Mitt.

Yes, you're right in saying it should be our job to try to get this. After all, Dr. Paul has the only stance that would permit gay marriage any where in the nation (the rest want to ban it on the federal level), so gaining an LCR endorsement would bring in thousands of LCR voters, as well as the groups critical funds for airing attack ads (and the best part is they would be attacking people like Mitt, not us, so it wouldn't have any blow back on Dr. Paul's official campaign). As Mitt is the "front runner" at the moment, we need everything we can to knock him down into the pile of filth that his movement is.

 

[parocks]

Right.

This ranks right up there in importance with the "how to win progressives" and "we need atheist support" threads.

This is a national Republican primary, in case it has been forgotten for the umpteenth time. "We" need to go after conservatives and Christians (especially Protestants and Mormons in the west like Nevada) and gun owners and the like. People that, you know, actually decide whom the GOP nominee will be.