We need our own state.

Libertytree said:
As bad as I hate to say it, anywhere in the continental US you are a willing target. They will steamroll us, propodandize us well beyond what the Davidians incurred. Make no mistake folks, WE are the ENEMY and they have us tracked, logged and numbered already.
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That was one of the advantages of Montana. They have silos for us to take over full of missiles we can point at D.C. "Don't tread on us!"
 
The main problem is that we probably couldn't get every RP supporter to move here. I wouldn't count on 2 million, maybe 100,000 if lucky.
 
nate895 said:
Reasons not to move to the Northwest:
  • It rains all the time, even summer
  • It is cold all the time, even summer
  • The Liberals assume they rule here and that you are liberal too
  • The streets are rolled up at sundown (which is 4:30 in the heart of winter)
  • The only thing to do on the weekend is to shop for second rate garbage at local mall (if you aren't canvassing for Ron Paul, that is probably more fun than most things up here)
  • If you want to open a restaurant in my town the total government fees are upwards of $100,000 if 100 tables
  • Portland food sucks outside of the few good downtown restaurants, which have waits of several hours
  • People are jerks for the most part,
  • and did I mention it is cold and rains all the time
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I live in Eastern Wa, and it it NOT cold or wet.
 
There is no advantage anywhere and especially where there are munitions of any sort let alone those capabilities involved. I wish I could envision a brighter outcome but I can't.
 
Libertytree said:
There is no advantage anywhere and especially where there are munitions of any sort let alone those capabilities involved. I wish I could envision a brighter outcome but I can't.
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So what do you suggest? Status Quo? Roll over? Remain slaves paying taxes to fund a brutal, illegal, pre-emptive war under Hillary, Obama or (god forbid) McCain?
 
If you want to talk about weather, consider NH actually. I live here and am constantly grateful that we have no (or very rare) "deadly weather". No tornadoes, no hurricanes, no mudslides, little or no flooding issues, also no forest fires. Yes, it is cold in the winter, but winter can be really fun! I learned to love it! And you can too with the right attitude.

On the other hand, I think weather should have very little to do with this conversation.

If you want freedom, I don't think weather should be a factor.

Either way, NH is an ideal choice.
 
erin moore said:
FAIR -WEATHER patroits need not apply. Any serious comments on this need to stop mentioning weather. I canvassed in 30 mph winds here in Kentucky and others of you trekked it out in the snow and ice.
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No kidding, these cry babies complaining about the weather probably wouldn't move anyways.

erin moore said:
Edit: Hawaii.... I think, I dont know why, I just dont think that will work.... maybe I dont know enough about Hawaii.... it seems idealistic, just make sure we're promoting ideas based on MERIT please
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Like I said, land is 1 million an acre.
 
nate895 said:
I thought that was the aim, to secede, and if we secede, I need to get a passport to leave.

I think I am sticking with the US until it is impossible to recover it.
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And there is a lot of people who will share the same sentiments when America turns into a police state.
 
Question_Authority said:
If you want to talk about weather, consider NH actually. I live here and am constantly grateful that we have no (or very rare) "deadly weather". No tornadoes, no hurricanes, no mudslides, little or no flooding issues, also no forest fires. Yes, it is cold in the winter, but winter can be really fun! I learned to love it! And you can too with the right attitude.

On the other hand, I think weather should have very little to do with this conversation.

If you want freedom, I don't think weather should be a factor.

Either way, NH is an ideal choice.
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That's the last state I would have on mind after I saw the election result there.
 
SteveMartin said:
Oh...and RP swept northern Maine. Won both the straw poll and the delegate count outright.

Biggest drawbacks of northern Maine are:

1> Cold
2> Lack of jobs


Positives:

1> Plenty of space for crops
2> Very low population density
3> Surrounded on three sides by Canada
4> Cheapest real estate in the nation
5> Secessionist fervor already exists
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Long as everyone is ok with being farmhands...
 
I think we need to recognize that the discussion we are having right now has already been had repeatedly. It has been hashed out by likeminds. And they reached a verdict. The didn't choose Montana, Texas, etc. for specific reasons.

Here is WHY they chose NH (and are ALREADY THERE, in the legislature even!):
http://www.freestateproject.org/files/101-Reasons-to-Move-to-NH.pdf

I'll see you guys in NH. It is now my goal to be there by fall. Please read the reasons, they are VERY convincing. Kudos to the FSP!
 
TheAmistad said:
That's the last state I would have on mind after I saw the election result there.
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Yeah, the election results from NH changed the way I view the "Live Free or Die" state forever. Plus, the exit polls showed that McCain got over half of the anti-war vote--not a very informed crowd there, to say the least.

There are, of course, exceptions and I wish them the best. But I won't be going to that state anytime soon.
 
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