We need our own island

I suppose you could however, we would be treated as moronic clowns to the mother nation.

Small independent nation which can operate as a tax haven etc. for freedom minded people abroad would end the fed as we know it.

Lololol. I could imagine if such a tax haven were in place the IRS would get the president to send naval blockades our way.
 
We could always buy Sealand ;) Sure not all of us could live on it, but it has the added benefit of being a recognized Micronation.
 
FireofLiberty said:
We could always buy Sealand ;) Sure not all of us could live on it, but it has the added benefit of being a recognized Micronation.
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Absurdly small, but it's already in the news and is "guaranteed" independence. There've been a number of attempts to achieve minarchy/anarchy throughout history.... All have failed due to outside forces.

But... If we could start a utopia underwater, where no one would find us.... ;)
 
Kludge said:
Absurdly small, but it's already in the news and is "guaranteed" independence. There've been a number of attempts to achieve minarchy/anarchy throughout history.... All have failed due to outside forces.

But... If we could start a utopia underwater, where no one would find us.... ;)
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We could also turn it into a for-profit venture by allowing companies, groups and organizations to "locate" there to avoid U.S. law, namely The Pirate Bay.
 
FireofLiberty said:
We could also turn it into a for-profit venture by allowing companies, groups and organizations to "locate" there to avoid U.S. law, namely The Pirate Bay
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Blowback will hit us hard. I doubt we'd be able to achieve any type of practical internet access after being embargoed/unrecognized by the world.


Edit: see political pressure on Naaru ;)

Those people are hardcore though.... I'd consider moving there if US ever "failed".
 
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ok. i've read the whole thread and haven't seen any links to this yet. anyone know anything about Michael Oliver and the Pheonix Foundation? sounds like he was totally serious and willing to put up serious money to get something like this off the ground. and if creating land in international water isn't a viable way to create a sovereign nation, what is?

wonder what he's up to these days.
 
jason43 said:
Cause all it would take would be one navy ship and everyone starves to death? Something along those lines?
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Yes. Country Co-Ops (UN, EU etc.) won't like us establishing an island for corporations to evade their taxes and would likely embargo us. I can't imagine many corporations taking the risk of setting up their HQ in such a "hot" area.
 
Is something wrong with the Liberty Island forum? It doesn't seem to be accepting new posts.
 
With a small island you could build house boats and hydroponic farmland for food and real estate.

Idk. Such a project would take so much effort I believe it is easier to be elected into congress and fix our own nation.
 
pilby said:
ok. i've read the whole thread and haven't seen any links to this yet. anyone know anything about Michael Oliver and the Pheonix Foundation? sounds like he was totally serious and willing to put up serious money to get something like this off the ground. and if creating land in international water isn't a viable way to create a sovereign nation, what is?

wonder what he's up to these days.
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http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=125799

That good enough?
 
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