We need our own island

[LibertiORDeth]

Join the people at Liberty Island in organizing the formation of a new independent country based on the principles of freedom and liberty. Share your ideas, research, skills, and knowledge, and help us raise funds to purchase an island and create a government based on the protection of individual liberty - something that is fast disappearing all over the world. If you know anything about infrastructure, economics, development, agriculture, trade, and foreign relations, or just want to join in the discussion, sign up now at www.islandofliberty.com.

 

[LibertiORDeth]

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[american.swan]

Can you add the total size of each island and an estimate on how many people could realistically live on each one?

 

[american.swan]

I think the grassroots should create a coalition of these islands and buy all of them.

 

[LibertiORDeth]

I think the grassroots should create a coalition of these islands and buy all of them.

Well if you were to do that you would probably want ones that are nearby. These are just examples from around the world.

 

[MusoSpuso]

Utilities? Property? Economy? Resources? Law?

Do you have any inkling of the kind of work, knowledge and money it would take to start your own country from scratch?

It's fun imagining stuff like this for a lark but seriously...you can't be serious

 

[LibertiORDeth]

Utilities? Property? Economy? Resources? Law?

Do you have any inkling of the kind of work, knowledge and money it would take to start your own country from scratch?

It's fun imagining stuff like this for a lark but seriously...you can't be serious

You don't think we can do this? Our country's founding fathers did this, and we have a much better start then them.

 

[american.swan]

Utilities? Property? Economy? Resources? Law?

Do you have any inkling of the kind of work, knowledge and money it would take to start your own country from scratch?

It's fun imagining stuff like this for a lark but seriously...you can't be serious

Well, I can imagine that Economy and transportion would be the difficult yes. It would take some rich people to get this going.

 

[DarkLaw]

Well, I can imagine that Economy and transportion would be the difficult yes. It would take some rich people to get this going.

Nooooo...at about 500 acres of island...priced at a cool $1.5 MILLION, we can allow 1,000 to comfortably live on the island and buy their share for about $1,500. EACH.

That's chump change compared to what we've thrown towards the movement/RP already. And we - the people - have such a vast array of specialties that I think this is very plausible. A few economists, some police officers, firemen, doctors/nurses, communication techs/computer/IT guys, maybe a few lawyers...>FEW<...etc etc.

With a community of 1,000 on the 'MAIN island', they can act as the leaders - the pioneers - set things in motion. Then, we buy up other nearby islands and place them under the law of the 'Main Island' or similar. It'd be just like Hawaii.

Hell, one of the small islands can serve as the trasnportation hub with runways, airport, freight/harbor, etc etc. This isn't THAT hard.
It just SOUNDS difficult. And Monumental.

But as stated - Our founding fathers did it without the help of the internet.
They did it with their sweat and blood, their knowledge and passion.

It'd be a cakewalk - comparably - for us.

 

[phoenixzorn]

This is for discussion of purchasing an island and starting our own country. Following are some options:

South America

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/boipeba-island.htm

$2,463

Central America

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/isla-muerto-panama.htm

$4,657 per acre.

Australia

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/clairview-island-australia.htm

$9,104 per acre

Mexico

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/cayo-venado.htm

$3,061

Europe

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/nafsika-island.htm

$9,531

how's the hunting on these?? I'll take 40acres in South America.... Also, we'll have to buy the ENTIRE Island, and get Alodial Title to it - this cannot be a "Real Estate" purchase... it must be bought with gold and silver, and must come with no strings attached... it is OURS and Sovereign... no laws of any other land may apply.

Of course, we'll need a government, and a monetary system, and arrange trade with many countries, and likely be nuked by USA for leaving shortly after filling up the island... but I'm all for moving to a private island.

 

[DarkLaw]

Energy concerns will be negligible as well as modern day advances in alternative power sources such as solar and wind turbines have driven the cost down. Within the next year, "nano" solar panels will be debuting and lower that cost even MORE. So low, in fact, that a small private "utility company' wouldn't be out of the question for those with enough capital to start it up.

Can you imagine that? Paying your neighbor the 'Electric Company' for power?

This is all VERY plausible.

 

[LibertiORDeth]

Energy concerns will be negligible as well as modern day advances in alternative power sources such as solar and wind turbines have driven the cost down. Within the next year, "nano" solar panels will be debuting and lower that cost even MORE. So low, in fact, that a small private "utility company' wouldn't be out of the question for those with enough capital to start it up.

Can you imagine that? Paying your neighbor the 'Electric Company' for power?

This is all VERY plausible.

Although it takes people like us to make it happen.

 

[LibertiORDeth]

... and likely be nuked by USA for leaving shortly after filling up the island... but I'm all for moving to a private island.

Thats the reason why we should do this instead of succeeding a state. No government would have any reason or authorization to threaten, let alone invade, us.

 

[LibertiORDeth]

I think this is the best bet.

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/boipeba-island.htm

It is the cheapest, and is the largest.
It can hold 25,000 people, which is plenty of room to start with.

 

[phoenixzorn]

reason?? a million people expatriate and say FU to the government.... that's reason enough.... hell... it's TREASON according to our current government to have a mass movement for ANYTHING political, financial, or religious...

 

[american.swan]

Even at $1500 per person, that is just for the land. (maybe gold would be required like someone suggested)

But there are a lot more cost than just land. Building materials. How would products reach the island?

Lots of logistics issues.

Also, the initial people would have to understand that initially maybe life would be a little old fashion like no toilets. It would be like a step back in time initially. But hopefully the comforts of modern day life could be brought in rather quickly.

It would be expensive.

 

[LibertiORDeth]

reason?? a million people expatriate and say FU to the government.... that's reason enough.... hell... it's TREASON according to our current government to have a mass movement for ANYTHING political, financial, or religious...

A couple thousand people to live on an uninhabited island? Come on be serious, this is much safer then choosing a state.

 

[phoenixzorn]

I think this is the best bet.

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/boipeba-island.htm

It is the cheapest, and is the largest.
It can hold 25,000 people, which is plenty of room to start with.

Remember, we need to have enough farmland to feed everyone on the island... Of course, that's why I get 40 acres... and a little beach-front property, because I'll have the greenhouses set up on that 40 acres that can supply food for 40,000 people... I have technology available that feeds 1,000 people per acre of greenhouses... you want me there. =)

On that note, I think I'll need 100 acres... 40 for the farm, 60 for the hunting... and only more farms surrounding me... and a landowner compact that gives all the farmers the right of first refusal when someone wants to sell their farm land and move to the "big city"... lol

 

[LibertiORDeth]

Even at $1500 per person, that is just for the land. (maybe gold would be required like someone suggested)

But there are a lot more cost than just land. Building materials. How would products reach the island?

Lots of logistics issues.

Also, the initial people would have to understand that initially maybe life would be a little old fashion like no toilets. It would be like a step back in time initially. But hopefully the comforts of modern day life could be brought in rather quickly.

It would be expensive.

Not really, only moderately so. Transporting building goods by boat isn't extremely expensive.

 

[phoenixzorn]

Not really, only moderately so. Transporting building goods by boat isn't extremely expensive.

I was just thinking about how expensive it would be to transport enough glass and aluminum to that island to build 40 acres of greenhouse... heh.