We do worse in NH than Iowa??

[Eric21ND]

How can this be? I remember Iowa being this blackhole for news and information going on and we managed to get a respectable 10% there. News and updates from NH came in daily, and there was much more ground activity going on there.

NH had one of the most organized meetups.

NH as a state had a libertarian streak.

NH had Live Free Or Die and other projects going on.

The campaign spent way more money here than Iowa.

NH has been one of our best fund raising states, while Iowa was on the lowest tier with the likes of West Virginia and Mississippi.

What gives?

 

[theantirobot]

something about voting machines

 

[Molly1]

Something stinks.

 

[BuddyRey]

Maybe we got overconfident in our presence there, so not as many people signed up to be delegates as should have.

 

[icon124]

we def. have more than 14,644 ppl in NH for RP....we know something is up, but yet those power controlling bastards win AGAIN

 

[neil]

It's not the voting machines, it's the voters. Really.

 

[DAFTEK]

And you guys laughed at us Iowans i tried my best and i still try my best

 

[Josh]

It's not the voting machines, it's the voters. Really.

exactly

while i believe voter fraud can and does take place how many votes could actually be lost or changed here when we have numbers from every precinct?

 

[markj]

it's fixed. There is no way the % remains the same between Rudy and Ron. Rudy is getting a bone thrown to him by the powers that be.

 

[Opulen]

Well we got more voters here in New Hampshire than in Iowa. Its increase in votes for Dr.Paul.

 

[synthetic]

exactly

while i believe voter fraud can and does take place how many votes could actually be lost or changed here when we have numbers from every precinct?

The machines can be programmed by amateurs to show any percentage they choose. They could add 1 vote or 1,000,000 and you'd never know it.

 

[undergroundrr]

It's not the voting machines, it's the voters. Really.

Yeah, I know, but 2% less than Iowa? It's just really hard to get my head around.

I, in Texas, have been under the impression that NH was the great frontier for freedom. The credibility of those who have marketed it as such is severely undermined for me.

Iowa, with its lost campaign database, chickenhawk populace and supposedly neanderthal worldview, looks like a raging success and a beacon of hope next to this.

 

[ARealConservative]

Yeah, I know, but 2% less than Iowa? It's just really hard to get my head around.

I, in Texas, have been under the impression that NH was the great frontier for freedom. The credibility of those who have marketed it as such is severely undermined for me.

Iowa, with its lost campaign database, chickenhawk populace and supposedly neanderthal worldview, looks like a raging success and a beacon of hope next to this.

The Iowa Caucus is a relic of a process. It is time consuming and inflexible schedule creates a super low turnout.

Iowa would never hit 10% in an actual election at this moment in time.
The low turnout was ripe for the picking though. It is Iowa that could of shocked the nation with more help. Instead Ron Paul visited less then Guliani, but since he showed up at the straw poll, the media claims he tried in Iowa and Ghoul did not.

 

[Swmorgan77]

How can this be? I remember Iowa being this blackhole for news and information going on and we managed to get a respectable 10% there. News and updates from NH came in daily, and there was much more ground activity going on there.

NH had one of the most organized meetups.

NH as a state had a libertarian streak.

NH had Live Free Or Die and other projects going on.

The campaign spent way more money here than Iowa.

NH has been one of our best fund raising states, while Iowa was on the lowest tier with the likes of West Virginia and Mississippi.

What gives?

Apparently "Libertarian Streak" means "libertarian" in the same way Niel Boortz or Bill Maher is a "libertarian". I.E. likes the idea of not being either party, but still accepts the policies of both parties.

 

[DrNoZone]

We may have done worse percentage wise, but we did better in total number of votes: 11k compared to 15k.

 

[Swmorgan77]

Maybe we got overconfident in our presence there, so not as many people signed up to be delegates as should have.

Delegates wouldn't have mattered in NH, this was voters voting.

Delegates WILL matter though, and having delegates can get Ron Paul nominated even if he doesn't win a single primary state.

 

[Minuteman]

We may have done worse percentage wise, but we did better in total number of votes: 11k compared to 15k.

This isnt a general election. Total votes across the spectrum means jack and shit.

 

[ronpaulitician]

McCain's appeal to independents paired with the lack of attention US voters pay to politics.

I'm sure we'll find that many of those who voted for McCain think he's the GOP candidate who will bring the troops home and who represents a truly different direction than the one taken by the Bush administration.

 

[Paul4Prez]

Turnout in the Iowa caucuses is really, really low, and always has been. A motivated voter base for one candidate, like ours, can do better there simply by getting people to the polls.

New Hampshire has the highest primary turnout in the nation, and today was record-setting there, so it was harder to get any kind of multiplier effect over the polls.

 

[Redcard]

What happened?

The indies went for Obama, that's what happened. Being a republican HURT Ron Paul, that's what happened.