We did well in Oregon, totals not completely in

[BKom]

There is a clear difference between posting unaltered video of an event and someone's impressions of what happened.

 

[sailingaway]

this one might be deleted as well - so be it - its daily paul video from oregon

Yeah, I'm thinking about it. They basically have information, accurate and not, plastered all over there. They don't seem to worry about it, but Michael is in China so I am not sure who is making that decision.

 

[Xenophage]

I was a PCP (similar to a delegate) at the CD1 convention in Oregon. I was running as an alternate delegate to national... but we never got to vote on alternates. However, we did very well in delegate selection.

 

[Xenophage]

Our slate was definitely compromised at CD1. Some slimy Romney guy snapped multiple photos of it and ran away.

 

[sailingaway]

I was a PCP (similar to a delegate) at the CD1 convention in Oregon. I was running as an alternate delegate to national... but we never got to vote on alternates. However, we did very well in delegate selection.

apparently there is an open state house seat in oregon, I posted it. Any desire to run? PCPs can vote, but maybe you have to be from that area, I'll find it.

 

[sailingaway]

here you go, it is for seat 26, the convention to elect the nominee, I guess, is July 7 http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?381646-Vacancy-for-House-District-Seat-26-in-Oregon

 

[devil21]

I wonder if the new GOP establishment plan will be to shut down remaining conventions before alternates can be seated, thus giving the Party the ability to select alternates and then try to prevent the Paul delegates from attending Tampa through credential shenanigans. This of course would seat the Party approved alternates in place of the elected Paulites and give Romney all the more establishment picks.

 

[Jackie Moon]

Yeah, I'm thinking about it. They basically have information, accurate and not, plastered all over there. They don't seem to worry about it, but Michael is in China so I am not sure who is making that decision.

Yeah, I know that everyone who was there or following along here real time knows what happened. And you can find it on the Daily Paul. But this is what the people here in CD3 are saying so I'm going to wait until I hear differently:

I was asked to pass along the word that we should not make any public statements about what happened at Oregon's district conventions today (June 23rd) or post video until the lawyers have been consulted. This could be pretty cool!

Tom Armstrong (state coodinator) and I are getting in touch with the national campaign and compiling reports among the various districts--especially the names and contact info. of our candidates who won in each district because they will likely be contacted directly with further instruction from the national campaign.

In the meantime, send any information you would like them to have to me: [email protected].

After we touch base with the campaign, we will consider moving forward with ORP and/or whatever else. But until we have a united front on how we're going to move forward, hold off on any public communication and even on social media.

All of the info. and footage that we have will not go away--we're simply waiting a short time to decide how to use it most effectively.

And please stay positive and respectful--that's our greatest asset right now. They're the ones who appear improper.

Thanks,
Joe Vance
acting state coordinator
419-631-9283

http://www.facebook.com/groups/ronpaul360/386564561391538

I think of it as why you don't talk to the police before a lawyer. Even if you did nothing wrong and have nothing to hide you may unknowingly say something that they can and will use against you later.

 

[sailingaway]

Yeah, I know that everyone who was there or following along here real time knows what happened. And you can find it on the Daily Paul. But this is what the people here in CD3 are saying so I'm going to wait until I hear differently:




http://www.facebook.com/groups/ronpaul360/386564561391538

I think of it as why you don't talk to the police before a lawyer. Even if you did nothing wrong and have nothing to hide you may unknowingly say something that they can and will use against you later.

Yeah, I'm on board, then.

 

[parocks]

Yeah, I'm thinking about it. They basically have information, accurate and not, plastered all over there. They don't seem to worry about it, but Michael is in China so I am not sure who is making that decision.

you're a mod, it's better to have it up and have it taken down than not.

There's a bunch of info over there on daily paul if you want to see it. the numbers over there aren't what we think they might be. CDs where we were thought to have won 10 of 10 of the at larges in that CD didn't give us 3/3 on the CD level. it's all over there if you want to see it.

 

[sailingaway]

you're a mod, it's better to have it up and have it taken down than not.

There's a bunch of info over there on daily paul if you want to see it. the numbers over there aren't what we think they might be. CDs where we were thought to have won 10 of 10 of the at larges in that CD didn't give us 3/3 on the CD level. it's all over there if you want to see it.

a bunch of it is wrong. by the end we had worked out that the 10 of 10 bit refered to that CDs vote on the at large delegates-- all CDs voted on an entire slate of 10 and the 10 with the most votes total won. Our whole SLATE won but I understand only6 of them were RP supporters, 3 Santa and 1 Grinch. Santa and Grinch have 3 and 1 bound delegates from that state from the primary so we put together a coalition slate vote where they got to fill those seats with actual supporters of the candidates, and we got the three bound to Ron and the three at large bound to Romney the rest were bound to Romney but were filled as to people, CD by CD.

 

[parocks]

a bunch of it is wrong. by the end we had worked out that the 10 of 10 bit refered to that CDs vote on the at large delegates-- all CDs voted on an entire slate of 10 and the 10 with the most votes total won. Our whole SLATE won but I understand only6 of them were RP supporters, 3 Santa and 1 Grinch. Santa and Grinch have 3 and 1 bound delegates from that state from the primary so we put together a coalition slate vote where they got to fill those seats with actual supporters of the candidates, and we got the three bound to Ron and the three at large bound to Romney the rest were bound to Romney but were filled as to people, CD by CD.

Thanks for the info. Do we anticipate that the 3 Santas and 1 Grinch will vote for Ron Pauls name to be placed into nomination? Do we think that Oregon will be one of the 5? We'll need, I think, 2 of those 4 to get the 15.

 

[sailingaway]

I think the precise numbers might be part of what they are holding close to their chest. If the number is close and the bad guys fill all the alternates, though, it is going to be super important to get our delegates to Tampa.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

I'm going to have to take some asprin. Tampa is such a "mystery" with all that's going on. But I am willing to wait to see the results if it benefits our delegates. But my heart just may need some asprin to get there with all of this suspense. And, I had really told myself some time back to stop hoping (spelling?, hope-ing) about anything in life, but we really do need Ron, so I'll hope for good things to come out of this.

 

[Jackie Moon]

I think this video is safe to post, it's from a woman that was a PCP in CD1. The video's description is:

"Ron Paul anarchists are seeking to overturn the popular vote of the people across the country and have made it half way to their goal here in Oregon with the election of Ron Paul supporters who's soul goal appears to be to renege on their promise to support the Presidential candidates they have committed to vote for during Oregon's GOP Delegate selection convention on June 23, 2012."

Also pretty sure she admits at the end that their plan was to stall so that the convention wouldn't finish in time, allowing the party to choose the alternates.

 

[sailingaway]

Do you think she doesn't like us?

 

[ClydeCoulter]

She claims our people said they were Romney supporters, then revealed later they were for Ron Paul. Do we have people that can reply to that over the internet (like on that youtube channels comments).

 

[sailingaway]

She claims our people said they were Romney supporters, then revealed later they were for Ron Paul. Do we have people that can reply to that over the internet (like on that youtube channels comments).

OUr people had the vote or her slate would have won. I understand when our guys won the delegates at large slate the people in the CD4 convention went around FOUR TIMES with the Romney slate saying ours was illegitimate and theirs was the right one. I guess initially they hoped it was all a mistake or something.

 

[RonRules]

Did you guys see this:

Ron Paul Supporter Attacked Trying To Retrieve Stolen Ballots From Oregon CD4 Convention

 

[RonRules]

From the video description:
"Oregon Congressional District 4, Saturday June 23, 2012, Roseburg, Oregon. The convention was shut down improperly by Oregon Republican leaders. The convention was not adjourned and previous motions adopted by the body stated the convention would complete all voting before adjourning for the night. But Republican leaders had their own agenda to complete the voting process of Alternate Delegates by dictatorship of the executive committee. People became furious of the news that the ballots had been stolen from the building, prompting a hunt for the ballots outside. When the ballots were found being loaded into a vehicle a Ron Paul supporter was attacked trying to return the ballots to the building for completion of the voting process."