We did well in Oregon, totals not completely in

[RonRules]

Allen is in BIG trouble...and, he looks like a rat.

More like a marmot/groundhog:

 

[parocks]

She told Dale that Alan/Allen said to take the ballots back ... so my question, who is Alan??? If he was the one that told them to take the ballots back, he was probably the one that told them to take them away in the first place.

That would make perfect sense and is likely true.

 

[No1butPaul]

That would make perfect sense and is likely true.

She is obviously not the sharpest tool in the box to implicate her boss like that ... I mean, even to go along with such a thing in the first place, but then on video saying, come on Dale, Allen says to bring them (the ballots he told us to steal) back. What in the hell was she thinking?

More like a marmot/groundhog:

Very quirky and funny, and it really does look like Allen! But I guess that was either his twin brother or he was calling his own name looking for his conscience or something.

 

[parocks]

I notified the Lawyers for Ron Paul and gave them a link to the video.

If people reading this thread were present and witnessed the attack or other anomalies, please contact David Callihan of Lawyers for RP.

RonRules you might want to make a special thread just about this footage.

Caught Red Handed Cheating in Oregon plus Assault.

 

[WhistlinDave]

More like a marmot/groundhog:

HAHAHAHAAAAAAAA That made me laugh so hard!!! Still laughing!!

Regarding the attack or assault or whatever, I don't doubt that something occurred prior to the filming that could be construed as assault. The reason I said pursuing that angle is probably a waste of time--and I'm talking about if this incident is brought in as evidence in the lawsuit--is because I'm assuming there wasn't a police report made. If the police were called, then great! But if the RP supporter wasn't hurt, and if my guess is correct that no police report was made, then in a court of law I would think bringing this up would probably only hurt the plaintiff's credibility.

Judges don't like it when they perceive litigants are trying to exaggerate or make things into more than what they are. I would think most judges would say, "Well if there was an assault, why were the police not called?" I just think it could do more harm than good, and it would probably be more constructive to focus on the cheating, and throw in the minor assault as a "by the way, this guy was getting physical too, nobody was hurt so it wasn't a big deal but I think if I didn't turn my camera on and what's her name wasn't telling Dale to back down, it could've gotten out of hand." Or something along those lines. Just my opinion...

And again this is predicated on my assumption that no police report was made. If that's incorrect, then disregard the rest. Just thinking in terms of all the Judge Judy I've watched over the years.

 

[RonRules]

Check out the video on post #39. It needs more views, please distribute.

The ballot box thief was caught red handed.

Note, the actual physical assault occurred before the video starts, but there is plenty of intimidation on video form the GOP perpetrators.

 

[affa]

That video is... heartbreaking and awesome at the same time. I can't believe how low they'll stoop, and it's apparent many of them have no clue how vile they're being. They might even think they're the 'good guys'. Gross. On the other hand, it's always good when we catch them.

That reference to Allen, combined with phone records, would clearly tie the theft to whoever ordered it, imo (aka Allen Alley, Oregon Republican Party Chairman).

 

[RonRules]

affa, your PM box is full.

 

[gary w]

Allen Alley is the chairman of the Oregon Republican party

I am not sure about Dale but I believe Terri Moffett who was the lady in the yellow top has a husband named Dale who has a logging company in Junction City Oregon.

 

[RonRules]

Allen Alley is the chairman of the Oregon Republican party

Who is "Dale" assaulter and the lady with the yellow shirt?

 

[gary w]

The lady in questiion who returned the ballots and mentioned Allen and the other man Dale is Terri Moffett ORP Staff Liaison. Second in charge at the CD4 convention behind Chairman Bob Avery

 

[sailingaway]

The lady in questiion who returned the ballots and mentioned Allen and the other man Dale is Terri Moffett ORP Staff Liaison. Second in charge at the CD4 convention behind Chairman Bob Avery

thank you.

and welcome to the forums, if I didn't welcome you, a year ago....

 

[RonRules]

Look at 4:02, where yellow shirt lady Terri Moffett tries to intimidate by saying "I will never let you be privileged enough to work next to me". (Doesn't seem like much of a privilege! )

This is clearly coercion and retaliation. The guy filming should join the Lawyers for Ron Paul lawsuit!



If the Lawyers for Ron Paul lawsuit you'll see this:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6Z2CIsa-JfkdVh1ZERjV2hoREk/edit?pli=1
Q: Will there be any legal ramifications or risks for witnesses and plaintiffs in submitting evidence and joining this lawsuit? A: Many delegates have voiced their concerns about retaliation by the state GOP or RNC if they participate in this lawsuit, such as being stripped of delegate, or executive member status or being named in another suit as a defendant. These concerns are FALSE and unfounded. In fact, the opposite is true. Active witnesses and plaintiffs actually can expect much greater legal protections referred to as “litigation privileges” granted under Constitutionally protected rights to due process. With “litigation privileges,” you will have greater immunity, and your delegate or executive member status, and your right to vote as an unbound delegate will have the extra protection from the courts. As a party to this lawsuit, any attempt to violate your rights will be closely scrutinized, and more harshly punished than if you are not a party to the suit. All delegates are obligated to take legal action when they have been informed of criminal misconduct.

 

[Jackie Moon]

Pretty good article that gives a history of the Oregon Republican Party and a detailed breakdown of what happened at the conventions. Really cool that the Oregonian decided to run this. The author shows how the party's claim that it was all an innocent mistake is false. Hopefully this will help get the real story out.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/myoregon/2012/06/the_ron_paul_revolution_vs_all.html

The Ron Paul Revolution vs. Allen Alley at the Oregon Republican Party's district conventions

The ORP cannot afford another decade long factional struggle like it endured in the 1990s. It also cannot beat this new generation. Look at the age of the average Precinct Committee Person (PCP) outside the Paul faction compared to their new insurgents. Who will outlast whom? Who will outlive whom? Who will out organize whom? The ORP’s present leadership has a choice to make, and last weekend they chose poorly.

Evidence for the claim that at 5pm there was an intentional attempt by the executive leadership of the ORP to stop the voting so that they could at least appoint their own people as alternate delegates is even more interesting to examine. Historically these conventions have gone way over time due to obvious problems in coordination, begging the question why the rush this year?

More interesting is the way the ORP leadership tried to exceed its authority by shutting things down. Evidence of centrally coordinated behavior undermines the notion this was all an innocent mistake. Under the convention rules Allen Alley had no power to unilaterally stop these conventions, but he and his staff did have phones. It appears that two things happened. 1) Each district chair was told that the other districts decided to shut down at five and were told they can no longer vote unless all five districts participated (a claim not supported by a convention rule). This seems to have been a clever ploy to get each district chair to attempt to convince his members to go home. 2) For safe measure, the ORP leadership told its state staff to grab the unused ballots and leave in the confusion.

There was no legitimate reason for the ORP to violate its own rules, engage in obfuscation after the fact, and alienate its only source of demographic growth. If the point of the ORP were to remain a club for rural Oregonians over the age of 50 to complain about Portland and Salem with no power to do anything about it, then perhaps trying to fend off the influence of what conservatives often dismissed as mere “Paulistas” makes sense. If they want to win however, the ORP needs to give college-educated urban professionals a reason to vote R. In that sense, the rise of Ron Paul should be embraced as a blessing.

 

[affa]

wow. amazing article, event the comment section is enlightening.

 

[Lindsey]

Great article. Thanks!