We Can Win Minnesota!

[James Madison]

I just spent an hour going over the Minnesota PPP crosstabs and found that if we only take into account males 18-44 we would WIN the caucus. Meaning, we need to work on older female voters. Guys, bring your girlfriend to the caucus (bring all your friends, for that matter). To the young people, plead with your grandparents to vote for Ron; grandparents love their grandkids more than anything else, and they will listen to you if you're persistent enough. Now get out there and let's do this!

 

[eric4186]

lolz

 

[sailingaway]

And point out the counting still going on in Nevada, whereas Ron's pledged voter total would have put him closer to Romney. Each vote turning out matters. Point out that polls and the media were saying Ron was in FOURTH place in Nevada all week.

 

[sailingaway]

lolz

We CAN win Minnesota, or be so close that we are clearly near tied, in a close run. Ron is less than 10% behind the leader in PPP polls and PPP had Ron down at least 4 pts in Nevada, AND polled while Ron was holding those huge rallys yesterday. That might not so much matter in a primary poll, but in a caucus, where only a small percentage take part to begin with, having thousands at rallies where they couldn't be polled had to have at least some impact. Turnout will be huge in the result, imho.

 

[walt]

let them know that we are going to hire a new campaign manager - one that understands that winning elections is about turning out voters across all demographics on election day - that would get me to turn out.

 

[carterm]

BE POSITIVE. Minnesota is seriously huge.

 

[Liberty74]

I just spent an hour going over the Minnesota PPP crosstabs and found that if we only take into account males 18-44 we would WIN the caucus.

You cannot be serious? LOL

Oh dear help us all, many RPF members still don't get it. We are losing because all we do is take into account the youth vote.

 

[samforpaul]

walt, I seem to recall in another thread you saying that the "Ventura machine" would be helping w the Ron Paul vote. Please expound upon that.
Thanks.

 

[James Madison]

You cannot be serious? LOL

Oh dear help us all, many RPF members still don't get it. We are losing because all we do is take into account the youth vote.

Read the rest of the post.

 

[Champ]

walt, I seem to recall in another thread you saying that the "Ventura machine" would be helping w the Ron Paul vote. Please expound upon that.
Thanks.

Ventura ran in Minnesota in unprecedented style in 1998 running on an anti-establishment platform. No one gave him a chance and people laughed at an ex-wrestler meat head running for political office, yet he still won. I think that is what this "Ventura machine" idea is referring to. He knew how to get people's blood boiling enough to sway enough Minnesota voters into voting anti-establishment and winning. He did this without even being in 2 of the major parties either.

 

[Feelgood]

I know, I know. Just like we can win Iowa, oh wait, that didnt go so well...

Just like we have a real shot at winning NH!!! Oh wait, we missed there too.

We are polling better then expected and could get an easy 2nd in SC!!! Oh wait, didnt happen.

Let's skip Florida all together, but it still looks like we will get at least 3rd there! OOPS!! Not even double digits...

Ok, well now we are in our territory, another caucus state!! Nevada will surely be the turning point, at least a strong second place win there! Hmmm again, didnt happen, didnt even break 20%.

Seriously folks, just how much pie can you throw into one sky, before you realize its just raining lemons? In every case thus far, where we were supposed to finish well, it hasnt happened, Now I realize that we are doing better then in '08, but lets face it, if we dont get some real 1st place finishes soon, then IMO the pundits are well justified in just writing us off. Spin it any way you like guy, this just isnt looking good.

There is simply too much corruption in the process and our government.

 

[James Madison]

I know, I know. Just like we can win Iowa, oh wait, that didnt go so well...

We came within 4% of winning Iowa; that's a pretty big improvement over 2008.

Just like we have a real shot at winning NH!!! Oh wait, we missed there too.

Nobody seriously expected we would win NH. We had a strong second place showing.

We are polling better then expected and could get an easy 2nd in SC!!! Oh wait, didnt happen.

We increased our support in SC by 400%; 2nd place in SC was unlikely and the polls demonstrated this.

Let's skip Florida all together, but it still looks like we will get at least 3rd there! OOPS!! Not even double digits...

Florida was a lost cause. 7% was still 120,000+ votes.

Ok, well now we are in our territory, another caucus state!! Nevada will surely be the turning point, at least a strong second place win there! Hmmm again, didnt happen, didnt even break 20%.

Clarke county is still showing 51% of precints reporting. Paul is ahead of Grinch right now and show continue to grow his lead as the later caucus results are tabulated.

Seriously folks, just how much pie can you throw into one sky, before you realize its just raining lemons? In every case thus far, where we were supposed to finish well, it hasnt happened, Now I realize that we are doing better then in '08, but lets face it, if we dont get some real 1st place finishes soon, then IMO the pundits are well justified in just writing us off. Spin it any way you like guy, this just isnt looking good.

We're within 10% of 1st in Minnesota and should overperform (just like we did in '08). 25% is very realistic in my opinion, especially if we drag apathetic people to the caucus.

 

[RDM]

You will not win MN if you DO NOT IMPROVE voter turnout. That's a fact. Ostriches keep doing what you're doing. All the rest, get on board and do what this thread says to do. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ersonally-get-friends-family-to-voting-booths.

 

[Mickeys]

And point out the counting still going on in Nevada, whereas Ron's pledged voter total would have put him closer to Romney. Each vote turning out matters. Point out that polls and the media were saying Ron was in FOURTH place in Nevada all week.

And at what point in this primary season is 3rd place not enough? This was his best chance so far and it isn't going to get easier the more states Romney wins.

A bunch of 3rd places on Tuesday and it is over. Well...to every one whose brain actually functions.

 

[Mark37snj]

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/co...polinaut/archive/2012/02/poll_minnesota.shtml

Santorum....29 %
Romney.......27 %
Gingrich.......22 %
Ron Paul......19 %

 

[freneticentropy]

You cannot be serious? LOL

Oh dear help us all, many RPF members still don't get it. We are losing because all we do is take into account the youth vote.

But dude, I did a crosstab and turns out that if only include people who voted for Ron Paul, he wins with like 100%.

 

[seeker4sho]

Ventura ran in Minnesota in unprecedented style in 1998 running on an anti-establishment platform. No one gave him a chance and people laughed at an ex-wrestler meat head running for political office, yet he still won. I think that is what this "Ventura machine" idea is referring to. He knew how to get people's blood boiling enough to sway enough Minnesota voters into voting anti-establishment and winning. He did this without even being in 2 of the major parties either.

If anyone can get in touch with Ventura maybe you can flatter him by urging him to run for Michael Backmann's seat in Congress and ask him to campaign for Ron Paul for the causus -- after all he supports Ron. Hey it is a long shot, it may work.

 

[tbone717]

If anyone can get in touch with Ventura maybe you can flatter him by urging him to run for Michael Backmann's seat in Congress and ask him to campaign for Ron Paul for the causus -- after all he supports Ron. Hey it is a long shot, it may work.

I have read elsewhere that Ventura's popularity in MN has plummeted. Perhaps someone local can confirm or deny this.

 

[djfirm]

.We came within 4% of winning Iowa; that's a pretty big improvement over 2008.



Nobody seriously expected we would win NH. We had a strong second place showing.



We increased our support in SC by 400%; 2nd place in SC was unlikely and the polls demonstrated this.



Florida was a lost cause. 7% was still 120,000+ votes.



Clarke county is still showing 51% of precints reporting. Paul is ahead of Grinch right now and show continue to grow his lead as the later caucus results are tabulated.

We're within 10% of 1st in Minnesota and should overperform (just like we did in '08). 25% is very realistic in my opinion, especially if we drag apathetic people to the caucus.

All that means NOTHING in the end. Paul didnt win. End of story.

I love Ron but he is not going to win shit. It has nothing to do with him and everything to do with the brainwashed, idiot public.

 

[seawolf]

Here goes the negativity again....From 2007 Members no less....yes Nevada is disappointing, but Ron did improve his vote percentage from 13.7% in 2008 to 18.5%.....the Campaign outperformed the final Nevada Poll Consensus (Nate Silver- 538 NY Times) 15% to 18.5%. I wanted second place too, but it simply did not happen.

Our 2012 results have exceeded the 2008 totals in every State thus far. As Ron states the Liberty Movement is growing, just open your eyes. The crowds are huge and even the mainstream media is giving Ron Paul far more favorable coverage than 2008 where he received virtually none.

I know the 2012 results thus far are not enough for many of us that have invested so much time, energy and money since 2007. The glass is half full right now. You can make the case that the Campaign is failing or that the Campaign is light years ahead of 2007-2008 at the same time of the primary season.

The choice really is yours. I choose to keep working for Liberty and 20 years from now if I am still alive I will look back on the Ron Paul Revolution with great pride and amazement that little old me was apart of history.

What say you??