We already have a North American Union, it's called the United States.

LOL. Well you folks do keep me amused. Afraid of highways, afraid of trade, afraid of Meskins and Canadians. Afraid that in the dark of night three countries will merge by magic and evil conspiracy.

You obviously enjoy your paranoia.
 
Rick@SPP said:
LOL. Well you folks do keep me amused. Afraid of highways, afraid of trade, afraid of Meskins and Canadians. Afraid that in the dark of night three countries will merge by magic and evil conspiracy.

You obviously enjoy your paranoia.
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There is nothing magic about it.
Who did you say you work for?
Did you leave a P out of your name lol?
I put it back in for you.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, won't be fooled again.
 
And some of us think the United States is far too big as it is. I, a Floridian, am tired of subsidizing New York taxpayers (who get to write-off their state income tax, but my state doesn't have one), having Californians in charge of my economic freedoms, or dealing with whatever "morality" Texans might legislate for me. I like to visit those states and I like their people, but they're not my home or neighbors and they shouldn't be ruling my life.
 
RickSp said:
The problem with NAU is that is is mostly paranoid fantasy. We are not going to be taken over by either Canada nor Mexico. And the expansion of existing highways, if by some chance it actaully ever happens, will not be driving cowboys from ranches or destroying whole towns as some, including Paul have claimed.
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That is bullshit RickSp. Come take a visit to Texas and check out the TTC.

Talk to the people whose homes are in the path of the proposed Tx corridor, talk to the people whose ranchland, the only thing they have to pass down to their kids, will be taken by eminent domain when that highway moves through.
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JoshLowry said:
That is bullshit RickSp. Come take a visit to Texas and check out the TTC.
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I grew up in Texas. Are you really trying to tell me that you do not have enough room to build a 1,200 foot wide series of roads? Running short on space already? That is actually pretty funny. Sounds like you have the Lone Star State confused with Rhode Island, which does, by the way, has some rather large highways as well.

Whether or not building more highways is a good idea is a completely separate question as is the issue of eminent domain. All of which has effectively nothing to do with liberty or even sovereignty unless you buy into the crackpot theories posted on Illuminati web sites like the link provided above.

The whole NAU nonsense is nothing but paranoia feed by xenophobia. It really is bullshit.
 
RickSp said:
LOL. Well you folks do keep me amused. Afraid of highways, afraid of trade, afraid of Meskins and Canadians. Afraid that in the dark of night three countries will merge by magic and evil conspiracy.

You obviously enjoy your paranoia.
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RickSp said:
I grew up in Texas. Are you really trying to tell me that you do not have enough room to build a 1,200 foot wide series of roads? Running short on space already? That is actually pretty funny. Sounds like you have the Lone Star State confused with Rhode Island, which does, by the way, has some rather large highways as well.

Whether or not building more highways is a good idea is a completely separate question as is the issue of eminent domain. All of which has effectively nothing to do with liberty or even sovereignty unless you buy into the crackpot theories posted on Illuminati web sites like the link provided above.

The whole NAU nonsense is nothing but paranoia feed by xenophobia. It really is bullshit.
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I'm sorry, was that an instance of you ignoring all of the points I made in my posts because you're scared of being wrong? Don't you think you're being a little intellectually dishonest here? Do you actually believe the tripe you spew, or do you just like posting baseless insults and accusations of xenophobia to get a rise out of people? As I said before, we have a lot to fear from the NAU (loss of sovereignty to an unelected supranational body), and so do the Canadians and Mexicans. We're all in this together.
 
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Rick doesn't live down here.

There are already existing highways and interstates that CAN be widened and OWNED by the state of Texas instead of destoying thousands of acres, cutting farms in half, removing the land from tax rolls, etc, and basically leasing to a Spainish company to do with as they please and charge us as they please.

SPP is wonderful to him.
The NAFTA HIGHWAY is wonderful too.
http://www.nascocorridor.com/pages/about/about.htm

Us building a fence on the southern border of Mexico is fine too.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h109-2672
SEC. 5. IMPROVING THE SECURITY OF MEXICO'S SOUTHERN BORDER.

Here Rick. Have some of what you call BS authored by "leaders".
These leaders in this publishing house include every President since FDR except JFK:
Building a North American Community
http://books.google.com/books?id=lV...X&oi=print&ct=result&cd=1&cad=bottom-3results

Wait!
Maybe he's Rick Perry!
 
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RickSp said:
And companies like Toyota have been building auto plants in the US. Six and half million US jobs are "insourced" from foreign companies. Insourced jobs also tend to pay more than purely domestic jobs.

"INSOURCING" - When Foreign Companies Establish Jobs in the U.S.

Insourced Jobs Pay More

Why is it that conservatives are so afraid of free trade? Or is it fear of Canadians? Or Mexicans? Or maybe of highways? Free trade is no threat to our sovereignty.
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Free trade is no threat to anyone, it is fair competition.

We do not have free trade. It is called managed trade and is highly regulated and maniuplated to achieve particular goals. These goals have nothing to do with freedom and good lives for the people.

Always remember that those who use force and deception to achieve their means will always exceed their use of power with lies, cheating, stealing, fear mongering, excessive suppression, and any other means at their disposal including enslavement and murder.
 
"Are you really afraid of a road? Frightened of asphalt? Cowering before concrete? Sounds awfully cowardly to me. I thought Americans were made of sterner stuff.

Hell most of it is already there. It is called Interstate 35 and it runs from Laredo, Texas, on the U.S.-Mexico border to Duluth, Minnesota. It already exists and the fabric of our civilization hasn't collapsed. And if in fact it is expanded, not much will change except that some transport cost will decline modestly.

Paranoid fantasies only get in the way of the cause of liberty. Time to take off the tin foil hats."

Indeed? Well, you can tell that to the Spanish who will be manning th toll booths for this road as they check your RFID which will be required in order to drive on this road. Oh, yes, and, so far, many of the other roads that have already been given away in this country and will be also "improved".

I guess we have beco9me so indebted that now we are paying for our debts by giving away our country piece by piece. Next will be China.

No, I do not fear a road, I fear loss of sovereignty and all that it will bring. I fear for our children and grandchildren (those who survive the new holocasut of depopulation) and the horrible lives they will be compelled to live because our generation did nothing to stop it.

You call this new highway a step toward liberty? I am shocked. You need to consider who is behind it and why. Really why? Who benefits?
 
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Eminent Domain puts my two favorite things to rant about in a negative manner together: collectivism and theft! <:-p

this is one of those situations where eminent domain, as far as I can tell, doesn't really even serve the public good. It just takes people's property so a few wealthy corporations can cut costs. more welfare for corporations! woO!
 
RickSp said:
I grew up in Texas. Are you really trying to tell me that you do not have enough room to build a 1,200 foot wide series of roads? Running short on space already? That is actually pretty funny. Sounds like you have the Lone Star State confused with Rhode Island, which does, by the way, has some rather large highways as well.

Whether or not building more highways is a good idea is a completely separate question as is the issue of eminent domain. All of which has effectively nothing to do with liberty or even sovereignty unless you buy into the crackpot theories posted on Illuminati web sites like the link provided above.

The whole NAU nonsense is nothing but paranoia feed by xenophobia. It really is bullshit.
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Hmmmmm, I will wager you just Love the War in Iraq also.
 
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