Watch Live: Donald Trump's Teleprompted Foreign Policy Speech

[openfire]

He did NOT say Hitlery was more "pro-liberty"- that's your interpretation

I didn't claim he said that she is more pro-liberty (that's your interpretation), I cited the fact that he said that her foreign policy is more "pro-liberty". Which is laughable, considering she is a full blown interventionist.

Read again:

If that thread has concluded that Hillary's foreign policy is more "pro liberty" than Trump's, as Murray N Rothbard claims, then I am surrounded by idiots.

 

[nikcers]

I didn't claim he said that she is more pro-liberty (that's your interpretation), I cited the fact that he said that her foreign policy is more "pro-liberty". Which is laughable, considering she is a full blown interventionist.

Read again:

I don't know I would vote for Clinton over Trump just over the fact that Trump advocates torture and killing people that are related to terrorists. I have some real shit head family members, i would hate to be responsible for their bullshit.

 

[openfire]

I don't know I would vote for Clinton over Trump just over the fact that Trump advocates torture and killing people that are related to terrorists. I have some real $#@! head family members, i would hate to be responsible for their bull$#@!.

What do you think they were doing while Hillary was Secretary of State?

 

[nikcers]

What do you think they were doing while Hillary was Secretary of State?

I'm not going to vote for the guy who wants to use nukes and torture, I have enough innocent blood on my tax dollars. Ron Paul taught me blowback, and because of blowback my friends came back from the middle east different people. It's not the visability of their scars or their missing limbs, but their psychological scars. If one of my friends commits suicide I would be hard pressed to vote for someone who advocates more blowback.

 

[openfire]

I'm not going to vote for the guy who wants to use nukes and torture, I have enough innocent blood on my tax dollars. Ron Paul Taught me blowback, and because of blowback my friends came back from the middle east different people. It's not the visability of their scars or their missing limbs, but their psychology scars. If one of my friends commits suicide I would be hard pressed to vote for someone who advocates more blowback.

I'm not telling you who to vote for, but I think you are insane if you think that Hillary's interventionist, warmongering, neocon foreign policy will produce less blowback.

 

[Murray N Rothbard]

This is complete and utter nonsense. You have it backwards.

Here is a question...Who would have- in a liberty and limited government sense- a better foreign policy, Ron Paul or Barney Frank? Answer, neither, they're about the same-- on foreign policy alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zLK-NfuQz4

And so how would Barney Frank and Trump compare? Trump obviously the more interventionalist, for bigger government, bigger military, etc. It's like night and day. I am not saying we should EVER be supporting Democrats, but the foreign policy issue is still not even close to adequate under the usual GOP candidates, and that includes Trump. And regardless of the views on civil liberties or domestic spending, it renders them un-electable imo, from a libertarian perspective. Trump is just as bad as any Neocon there is.

 

[openfire]

Here is a question...Who would have- in a liberty and limited government sense- a better foreign policy, Ron Paul or Barney Frank? Answer, neither, they're about the same-- on foreign policy alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zLK-NfuQz4

And so how would Barney Frank and Trump compare? Trump obviously the more interventionalist, for bigger government, bigger military, etc. It's like night and day. I am not saying we should EVER be supporting Democrats, but the foreign policy issue is still not even close to adequate under the usual GOP candidates, and that includes Trump. And regardless of the views on civil liberties or domestic spending, it renders them un-electable imo, from a libertarian perspective. Trump is just as bad as any Neocon there is.

I understand your point, however...

Hillary Clinton is no Barney Frank when it comes to foreign policy. She's more of a George W Bush. That's the part I think you don't understand...

 

[nikcers]

I'm not telling you who to vote for, but I think you are insane if you think that Hillary's interventionist, warmongering, neocon foreign policy will produce less blowback.

What part of using nukes and torture against innocent human lives is morally reprehensible do you not understand? For example: We should apologize to the innocent people of Japan, and not the government of Japan that caused those innocents to die. Any other nation for that matter, too. This is why citizens in other nations come to hate us, because we do shit like that and then we say oops, we don't point the finger at their governments that uses their people like marionettes.

 

[CPUd]

True, but I'd rather have a president who can speak well unscripted than one who can read a script well.

I'd rather have a president who speaks truthful shit they believe in that doesn't contradict statements made days or hours beforehand.

 

[nikcers]

I'd rather have a president who speaks truthful $#@! they believe in that doesn't contradict statements made days or hours beforehand.

That's the magical marketing of Trump though, makes you want to buy a product that you absolutely hate. No matter who you end up voting for, Trump is your motivation.

 

[nikcers]

This is something that Obama said was a mistake, it was blamed on false intelligence. Basically they bombed them off their metadata, and their data was being spoofed by real targets. I'm with Ron on this though, my first preference is not to be there at all. My second preference would be to leave their innocent civilians alone because its not their fault. One could argue that wasn't a mistake, but I think one could also argue that without the meta data and intelligence either argument is unsubstantial. I tend to argue on the side of error, then intent.

 

[RonPaulMall]

I don't know I would vote for Clinton over Trump just over the fact that Trump advocates torture and killing people that are related to terrorists. I have some real $#@! head family members, i would hate to be responsible for their bull$#@!.

People knock Trump for saying that, but it was actually a surprisingly astute comment. Tribal cultures such as those that exist in the Middle East require deterrent measures tailored to a collective society, not an individualist one. Russia and Israel have both found collective punishment to be a highly effective tactic in dealing with Muslim Terror.

As for the speech today, wow. I'm supporting Trump for President primarily because of his foreign policy but even I was blown away by what was said today. Never in my wildest dreams did I think he'd go that far in terms of challenging the neocon establishment. And this was a scripted speech too, not just Trump shooting from the hip. The Republican Party is once again the party of Robert Taft. Lindsay Graham is losing his shyt.

 

[nikcers]

People knock Trump for saying that, but it was actually a surprisingly astute comment. Tribal cultures such as those that exist in the Middle East require deterrent measures tailored to a collective society, not an individualist one. Russia and Israel have both found collective punishment to be a highly effective tactic in dealing with Muslim Terror.

As for the speech today, wow. I'm supporting Trump for President primarily because of his foreign policy but even I was blown away by what was said today. Never in my wildest dreams did I think he'd go that far in terms of challenging the neocon establishment. And this was a scripted speech too, not just Trump shooting from the hip. The Republican Party is once again the party of Robert Taft. Lindsay Graham is losing his shyt.

Well Trump is designed to punch the RNC-establishment platform to help Hillary, but I guess people have too much of a hard on to watch someone punch the RNC establishment to notice that he is not on our side but I guess that leads to a good 2020 for Rand Paul..

 

[RonPaulMall]

Well Trump is designed to punch the RNC-establishment platform to help Hillary, but I guess people have too much of a hard on to watch someone punch the RNC establishment to notice that he is not on our side but I guess that leads to a good 2020 for Rand Paul..

How does absolutely eviscerating Hillary's foreign policy and putting the GOP back on the side of opposing idiotic wars and nation building "help" Hillary Clinton?

 

[CPUd]

Well, if Ann Coulter said it, I'm on board.

 

[misterx]

I'd rather have a president who speaks truthful $#@! they believe in that doesn't contradict statements made days or hours beforehand.

Wouldn't we all.

 

[RonPaulMall]

Well, if Ann Coulter said it, I'm on board.

A bit of hyperbole. Robert Taft gave some pretty great foreign policy speeches too. And Ron gave great ones from a purely substantive standpoint.

 

[Chieppa1]

Uh, no... That's exactly the point. He's saying no more wars in the M.E. for Israel. Read between the lines.

How about we don't read between the lines when it comes to a politician? Hilarious the response in here.

"Obama turned his back on a friendly leader in Egypt". Dictator. 30 years. Tortured his own citizens to protect Israel's southern border.

"Iran can not have nuclear weapons". How is that not the NeoCon policy?

Ron Paul Forums. RON PAUL FORUMS. RON PAUL.

 

[Saint Vitus]

What the $#@! are you people talking about? He's talking nuclear expansion, alliances with defacto dictators, more aggressive intervention when intervention is done, and intervention purely on behalf of "American Interests"- whatever the hell those are...? Guess what was on behalf on "American Interests" in 2003? And since when is increasing the size of the military a good thing?

Wake up, you clowns. You've drank the Trump koolaid.

But I'm sure you think when Rand says those things he doesn't really mean it.

 

[V-rod]

Neo-Con Prince Bill Kristol is fuming on Twitter over Trump's latest victories.