WASHINGTON state gop convention thread STARTING 5/30 (LIVESTREAM May31-June 2)

[romancito]

The national campaign is the biggest liability for us now. Call me bitter, but if that asshole Benton had kept his mouth shut back couple of weeks ago, we would be winning A LOT now. Benton effectively killed the momentum we had. Noticed how we never won shit after ME and NV? We peaked in ME/NV and then Benton dropped the bomb, as if on purpose. It was all downhill since.

Now watch as Benton and Co. tries to co-opt and coerce all national delegates we do have, to make them "behave" at the convention. Each delegate will have a delegate coordinator from the campaign and I bet the coordinator will be brainwashing the delegates to bend over at the RNC for Romney.

Not only do they not want to win, I feel like they WANT to lose.

That's what I've been saying since day 1. They going to tell us in a book or two they going to write and for 25 - 30 dollars we will find out what happened that week after Dr. Paul knew that he had a chance of winning the nomination. I have the same thing, fear of heights.

 

[tsai3904]

Washington was never a sure win for us. If people understood the process, they would know why.

Washington is one of only 3 caucus states where people elected as Precinct Committee Officers 2 years prior were AUTOMATIC delegates to county conventions. My guess is that Washington has about 1,500 PCOs and probably not more than 20% were Ron Paul supporters. This means that the establishment had a huge head start on us by getting hundreds of people to the county conventions uncontested.

To win/sweep Washington, we had to have won 2 years ago by getting our supporters elected as PCOs.

 

[sailingaway]

Washington was never a sure win for us. If people understood the process, they would know why.

Washington is one of only 3 caucus states where people elected as Precinct Committee Officers 2 years prior were AUTOMATIC delegates to county conventions. My guess is that Washington has about 1,500 PCOs and probably not more than 20% were Ron Paul supporters. This means that the establishment had a huge head start on us by getting hundreds of people to the county conventions uncontested.

To win/sweep Washington, we had to have won 2 years ago by getting our supporters elected as PCOs.

As I recall King county appointed a bunch of PCOs after the deadline and the campaign was going to challenge them. Do you know what happened with that? That was the same county where 1000 people 'too many to fit' turned up for caucus and were turned away from voting.

 

[tsai3904]

As I recall King county appointed a bunch of PCOs after the deadline and the campaign was going to challenge them. Do you know what happened with that? That was the same county where 1000 people 'too many to fit' turned up for caucus and were turned away from voting.

Looking back at the complaint and response by the WA GOP, it seems like there's nothing the campaign can do. The campaign can allege that people were appointed as PCOs after the deadline but the WA GOP's response is that they appointed a bunch of people before the deadline. I don't know how the campaign can prove that it happened after the deadline.

This is why I can't stress enough that all of us get involved in our local GOP. If we had been the ones in charge, none of this would have happened. We've taken over Iowa and Nevada so there's no reason why we can't do it in other states.

 

[parocks]

That's what I've been saying since day 1. They going to tell us in a book or two they going to write and for 25 - 30 dollars we will find out what happened that week after Dr. Paul knew that he had a chance of winning the nomination. I have the same thing, fear of heights.

Also Minnesota.

The official campaign has done a fine job. Our victories, at least in Maine, and I believe Minnesota, were official campaign directed. Our state director in Maine was official campaign and he was on the ground in Maine continuously since about November or December. The state was well organized, and we won 21/21 delegates that were up for grabs. Minnesota had The Collins on the ground. And I don't think he was state director. Minnesota was a clear victory, almost a sweep. And it was directed by the campaign.

Did I miss the primaries and caucuses that we actually won? We decided to believe that the results of the primaries and caucuses didn't really matter. But the Ron Paul campaign did understand that getting soundly beaten in primary after primary with Romney getting over 50% every time was going to result in Romney getting over half the delegates every single time.

What did Benton say? That Ron Paul is basically broke and unable to compete in the upcoming primary states and wouldn't be spending money there. It's a reasonable comment. I haven't yet seen a real indication that voters are at this point, moving to Ron Paul. The race is considered over, most people have considered the race over for a long time. It isn't technically over. A lot could happen in the next 2.5 months. A big scandal. 10 black swan events in a row, all favorable to Ron Paul. But what Benton said really didn't change anything, coulda moved us from 10% to 15% or from 15% to 20%, whatever the case may be. But in either case, we'd need those black swan events.

 

[parocks]

We did well in Minnesota and a few other states the other weekend. It is threads like these that kill momentum.

Momentum, threads on RPF have the ability to kill it? And there was momentum when, how, where?

On the other hand, you're right to criticize.

 

[parocks]

WOOT.. WA 3rd District!!! Paul/Santorum Coalition FTW!!!!

In the trenches...!

Once again, I delivered my district. I don't know what's wrong with the rest of Y'all.

Good Job!

 

[jtwing85]

As I recall King county appointed a bunch of PCOs after the deadline and the campaign was going to challenge them. Do you know what happened with that? That was the same county where 1000 people 'too many to fit' turned up for caucus and were turned away from voting.

That was purely suspicion. They did not find any PCOs who were appointed after the deadline.

 

[romancito]

Black swan events. Black swan event was the campaign suddenly shutting down their public relations efforts in all fronts. There has been plenty of black swan events with Romney to hit him hard and keep complaining about the press not taking Dr. Paul's economic forecast seriously giving the dire situation in Europe. With the economic news today, a good pr campaign could show that Dr. Paul is way more qualified than Romney to lead our country forward.

Black swan event seems when suddenly a complete silence from the Ron Paul leadership kinds of accepts that our fate as citizens rests on allowing those in the elite brackets of government influence to dictate to us every which way we must behave.

Having said that, these last two weeks has seen a behavior modification reversal that has been orchestrated brilliantly. I have no idea what it is about and from where and by whom and all the rest of the questions that one could ask but by golly it will be interesting in the future to find out what the heck happened here.

 

[ssjevot]

It's been posted, but I just want to thank everyone in the 7th CD for our clean sweep and for being the first CD to finish voting. College students pulled through for Paul.

 

[JK/SEA]

whatever. Its looking more and more that i'll be casting my vote for Obama. Fuck the republican party. 4 more years for Obama should get everybody awake by his 7th year...

over and out. Good luck in Tampa.

 

[Rebelrouser]

whatever. Its looking more and more that i'll be casting my vote for Obama. Fuck the republican party. 4 more years for Obama should get everybody awake by his 7th year...

over and out. Good luck in Tampa.

If Obeyme wins in November, and given congress's complete unwillingness to act as a separate branch of government and hold the White House accountable, there probably won't be an election in '16. The dollar will collapse under its own weight in which case Obeyme and DHS will most likely put the country under martial law as congress jumps skittishly at the site of its own tail cheering them on all the way.

 

[WhistlinDave]

I think it's premature to become pessimistic. Just as it's premature to think Romney has the nomination clinched. The National convention is months away. Nobody is the nominee until the National convention. Nothing anybody says or does can change that fact.

Negativity is usually a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Thoughts become words. Words become actions. Actions become habits. Habits harden into character. And character determines your destiny.

So watch your thoughts... Do not overindulge in "being realistic" because tomorrow's reality does not yet exist. And if you allow yourself to be pessimistic, then you are tainting the reality of what tomorrow will become. Remain optimistic, even if it is cautiously optimistic.

Remaining wishful in your surrender is still surrender. Do you still own your mind, or does the Romney establishment?

I have faith there is a reason for everything, and everything is happening exactly as it should.

Don't give up. Keep working. Keep fighting. Defeat is a solitary sport for the weak minded. Victory is never had by those who give up before they even get close to the finish line.... And we are still nowhere close to Tampa.

 

[lordindra3]

Didnt we go into the convention with 50% of national dlegates? From earlier conventions? That's what maddow said! Are we forgetting this? So I thought even if we lost all delegate slots this time, we still cannot have less than 50%? That would mean any district win will push us over!



By the way, do you know why we didn't have people show up? Because Benton told everybody we gave up and not all delegates read Paul blogs an don't know the truth. Benton is so worthless. Why did we give him$300k of our hard earned donations? Romney is still ever more aggressive so he made a focus not to get embarrassed , that plus a little help from cheating establishment means Paul goes in disadvantaged. Meanwhile Benton stated publicly that they will not help because he gave up. Everybody who I know that voted for Paul, but who is not hardcore super Ron Paul fan like me and reads every thing about Paul thinks paul gave up (including my disappointed dad and brother who finally became believers this election. This sucks. Benton betrayed us...

 

[Rebelrouser]

The campaign does not want to win. They were handing out fake slates at my convention against me.

You mean for the Virginia 11th? The e-mail I received from Gerry Burde was pretty clear in saying that you and Brandon were the only RP candidates on the ballot. I didn't see the slate being handed out at the convention.

Truthfully I've been speculating about this myself. The Facebook announcement for the last moneybomb strongly indicated that Dr. Paul was ready to ride off into the sunset, so to speak. I can only think of a few reasons for the mixed between-the-lines messages we supporters have been receiving lately:

1. His health is waning and he's not so certain that he can physically handle the Presidency.
2. There are political circumstances we are not being made aware of - possibly threats against him or his family.
3. Despite the incredible progress the campaign's made, he's discouraged and maybe the media and establishment's rhetoric are finally getting to him.
4. This is all just strategy to lay low until Tampa


I'm really hoping its number 4. Regardless, I think I'll call up the headquarters in Springfield soon and see if I can help in any way.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

F**k the negativity, no one came this far to quit just before the finish line.
It's right there in front of us, the finish line. Are we 1st, 2nd, what's the truth about Benton? Who knows?
Just go, damn it, go with all you got, for peace sake!

 

[Tinnuhana]

How many of you have ever hit the wall? That time in a marathon where your body has used up all the carbs and is starting to eat itself (metaphorically speaking), when you look in windows you pass to see if, indeed, your feet are still moving? The truth is, your feet ARE still moving. And if you don't give in to the feeling that you're at a standstill, you'll finish the race.
A co-worker said to me yesterday that she's had it with the politicking and plans to write in Ron Paul in the general election. That's the first encouraging thing I've heard in a week or so. Please believe that everything you do to get the maximum number of delegates to Tampa and all matters. The veterans of 1988 and 2008 have to take the lead as the the newer people look for guidance and we are all hardened/strengthened by our participation in the process, corrupt as it may be. There are other Thomas Massies and Justin Amashes and Deb Medinas in our midst. Do we care if they pack it in? Or do we care if they learn that with everything against us, we persever and are there for each other.
And maybe, we should take a few minutes to post on Ron's FB page or something, how this past year or so has positivley impacted us personally. Just an idea...

 

[dude58677]

F**k the negativity, no one came this far to quit just before the finish line.
It's right there in front of us, the finish line. Are we 1st, 2nd, what's the truth about Benton? Who knows?
Just go, damn it, go with all you got, for peace sake!

This!

 

[RonRules]

From now on, concentrate on the election fraud. Don't let Romney get away with anything. Only fund activities related to election fraud. It's not just for Ron Paul, it's for all of us.

 

[No1butPaul]

Black swan events. Black swan event was the campaign suddenly shutting down their public relations efforts in all fronts. There has been plenty of black swan events with Romney to hit him hard and keep complaining about the press not taking Dr. Paul's economic forecast seriously giving the dire situation in Europe. With the economic news today, a good pr campaign could show that Dr. Paul is way more qualified than Romney to lead our country forward.

Black swan event seems when suddenly a complete silence from the Ron Paul leadership kinds of accepts that our fate as citizens rests on allowing those in the elite brackets of government influence to dictate to us every which way we must behave.

Having said that, these last two weeks has seen a behavior modification reversal that has been orchestrated brilliantly. I have no idea what it is about and from where and by whom and all the rest of the questions that one could ask but by golly it will be interesting in the future to find out what the heck happened here.

This all happened only 5 days after the meeting w/Bernanke. RP met w/Helicopter Ben on Wed., May 9th and he sent out the PR on Mon., May 14th. I'm just saying, the timing is suspicious. I just am curious where the final money bomb money went, because as far as I can tell, it didn't go into WA or MO, am I wrong about that? There has been a prolonged silence from the campaign leaving us only to speculate here ... that is just really too bad.