Washington Caucus Results Thread

[azxd]

Ahead of the Washington contest, Romney led in the overall count with 173. Santorum had 87, followed by Gingrich with 33. Paul had 20.
It takes 1,144 delegates to clinch the nomination.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/03/gop-candidates-washington-caucuses/#ixzz1o7JAWbLI

Is this count accurate ?

 

[sailingaway]

Ahead of the Washington contest, Romney led in the overall count with 173. Santorum had 87, followed by Gingrich with 33. Paul had 20.
It takes 1,144 delegates to clinch the nomination.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/03/gop-candidates-washington-caucuses/#ixzz1o7JAWbLI

that is nonsense. Even using the way off AP count, that ignores the 6 Ron got in Montana.

 

[sailingaway]

Is this count accurate ?

not even slightly.

 

[pauliticalfan]

Also, Paul is 11/11 so far for exceeding 2008 performances, right? That's very impressive.

 

[pauliticalfan]

Also, one more thing. Santorum getting his ass kicked in Michigan was best case scenario for us. If he had won Michigan, we would definitely be looking at third place right now.

 

[affa]

So now THEY are "flipping" caucus votes to see that a candidate finishes third, not second?

Some of you guys need to take a few steps back from this all.

for the record, yes, that's been long established in the thread you live/love to hate on. but hey, since i doubt you actually read that thread deeply, i doubt you'd know that.

it's called controlling the narrative, and we've seen the suspicious activity going back to 2008, negatively affecting Huckabee. We've also seen it keeping Romney in 2nd against a dominate Gingrich in 1st. If you want to ignore the issues we're seeing, fine, but it's silly to think 2nd isn't important to the narrative.

 

[RPit]

In '08 we got 21% of the caucus vote but 40-45% of the delegates.. Truth, because I was there

Anyways I'm wondering why the results for Chelan County aren't in, that is a small place and really shouldn't be that many votes to count. I can understand King County taking time but Chelan should've been out long time ago.

 

[pauliticalfan]

Really, this just continues a long trend of getting screwed out of first by a hair.

Ames straw poll, then Iowa, then Maine, now Washington. Just a coincidence though, I'm sure.

 

[Adam West]

So now THEY are "flipping" caucus votes to see that a candidate finishes third, not second?

Some of you guys need to take a few steps back from this all.

Ya know, I love your Smarmasm. Let me place a pristine clean neatly rolled-out red carpet for you.. King of Nothing.

 

[PolicyReader]

Below I quote my post from another thread, the point is to describe how the delegate process works since many seem to still overly value the Popular (straw) vote as it pertains to picking the Nomination.

This is from what was given to me as being one of the best compilations of delegate and vote totals.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/R

Romney 1,841,731
Santorum 1,090,126
Gingrich 987,468
Paul 505,203

National delegates won't be assigned until June. They can't make a count.

My precinct straw poll was 56% for Romney.

But ALL 100% of the delegates are paul supporters. In one month we will go to our county convention and select delegates to the state. In June we will go to the state convention and select delegates for national.

The green papers are good but popular vote isn't where to look, those numbers don't really matter (aside from perception/donations/momentum angles, basically PR)
Hard Total
Romney 118 5.16%
Santorum 17 0.74%
Newt 29 1.27%
Paul 8 0.35%


Those are the delegates that have actually been assigned to the national convention as of now. Of the total needed 1,144 national delegates.
The rest are not yet confirmed because the delegates assigned are on a more local level and have to work their way up through 'elimination rounds' to the state conventions which will then assign national delegates. These delegates will vote for whom ever they personally choose come convention time.
This is where Paul has a strong showing, understanding the 'game' he's prepared people so that they can secure these slots. Classic example is Minnesota where Santo won the Popular (straw) vote but Paul had the strongest showing in taking local delegates (which are the start of that process to elect national ones).

Now the above is a broad and general description because rules are unique to each state but that's a framework for how the process goes.
Bluntly when it comes convention time those delegates to the national convention are the votes that pick the Nominee and what the popular vote is or was won't direct or alter that (tho some individuals may choose to be 'advised' by it when they vote).

Hence the article I linked, it describes a bit of the 'how' of Paul taking full advantage of how the system is set up.
Regardless of what any of us think about the legitimacy of that system it is the one that is in place right now and the Official Campaign is taking whatever advantages they can be afforded by the rules in play.

 

[ProBlue33]

You know what figure I like?
The one that shows Mitt only has only 5% of the hard delegates, not for WA, but for the entire primary season in total.
These caucus states are not helping him get real contributing wins.
Maybe this is why he isn't attacking Ron Paul too much.
It's all psychological.
We have a long way to go until Tampa.

 

[Fraulein]

Also, Paul is 11/11 so far for exceeding 2008 performances, right? That's very impressive.

I don't understand this mindset, in fact I consider it a plague upon the 2012 campaign.

If your in this to win it, it matters not how much better we do this time around compared to last time. Winning only matters.

If your in this to spread a message and NOT win the nomination, you would be happy that he is doing "better".

 

[Natural Citizen]

We can continue to spread the message of Liberty to every willing and not-so-willing ear.

You contradict yourself. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ast-to-Coast&p=4237070&viewfull=1#post4237070

I should -1 you like boburn did to me just for bringing up the idea. But I won't. Sometimes folks are their own worst enemy.

Flip flopper.....

 

[Keith and stuff]

You know what figure I like?
Maybe this is why he isn't attacking Ron Paul too much.

It is a terrible idea for Romney to attack Paul. Paul is last nationally and Romney is first. The person in first is supposed to ignore the person in last. You don't attack all the way down to the bottom.

 

[MozoVote]

C'mon Washington... give Paul that half a percent more so it doesn't "look like" a tie

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

Well. Let's just move on. To Alaska! The state that gave birth to Sarah. I assume that is our next biggest chance eh?

 

[GraniteHills]

Chelan in

 

[fred584]

Slow steady growth. Hopefully we will get a few wins on Tuesday in Alaska, ND and Idaho.

Lets also hope for a big upset in VA

A few second places and soon it will be Ron Paul and Romney.

The polls are wrong. They had Ron Paul around 12 % or so for washington. so if that is correct we could have a really good day on tuesday.

Even if we don't win anything and get a majority of 2nd place finishes, we will be in good shape to go head to head with mitt

 

[RPit]

Paul will probably be above Santorum by 1.5% when this settles

 

[GraniteHills]

It all comes down to 50% in King County.