Washington Caucus Results Thread

Slow steady growth. Hopefully we will get a few wins on Tuesday in Alaska, ND and Idaho.

Lets also hope for a big upset in VA

A few second places and soon it will be Ron Paul and Romney.

The polls are wrong. They had Ron Paul around 12 % or so for washington. so if that is correct we could have a really good day on tuesday.

Even if we don't win anything and get a majority of 2nd place finishes, we will be in good shape to go head to head with mitt

It is a big bump above the polls. they only TODAY made it sound like it was Romney or Paul (and they clearly targeted Ron's heartland of Spokane which I hope doesn't impact the delegates and representation there), so against the PPP poll Ron was way over.
 
Whatever happens in this election, this country, or this world, it has been a pleasure to know men and women like yourselves who strive to live free :)
 
Pierce county only has 43% in as well.

I didn't notice Pierce.. But there is no way in hell Santorum will overtake Paul in King County and the rest of the '50%' will account for a lot of votes. I think second is secured.
 
Whatever happens in this election, this country, or this world, it has been a pleasure to know men and women like yourselves who strive to live free :)

Back at you, but don't fool yourself into thinking this stops in 2012.

We all have to keep fighting to get people like us elected into the GOP for the foreseeable future.

Thats how we win this in the long run, and insure that all the work Ron Paul gave his life for was not for nothing...
 
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Please help me get other Ron Paul supporters to understand how the delegate process works. We keep losing momentum and fund raising because people think we aren't winning even though we are doing pretty darn well on delegate counts.

What is this talk?

I keep hearing it over and over and it still makes no sense.

The people vote. Delegates are assigned according how people voted.

In some states, yes, that is true. In others that's a bunch of crap. We are probably getting most of the delegates from IA, MN, CO, MA, and WA. In NV, they can vote to unbind the delegates are the state convention, so there is a possibility he could get most of those as well. There is also a strong possibility that he could pick up quite a few from WY.

In IA there are 28 possible delegates. It sounds like the organization was good, so we may get 20 out of there.

In NH, there are 10 possible BOUND delegates, Ron Paul got 3. Huntsman got one. Since he dropped out that delegate is UNBOUND. We may get that one. NH is has bound delegates so for the first round we won't have any luck getting others until additional rounds.

In SC, we didn't get any delegates. Grinch got 23 BOUND delegates. If Grinch drops out soon they become UNBOUND. If Ron Paul supporters are organized they could end up picking up a lot of them.

In FL, we didn't get any and probably wont unless this goes to a brokered convention and at some point they become UNBOUND.

In NV, we got 5 BOUND delegates, but most of the delegates that got selected are Ron Paul supporters. There is a possibility that these selected delegates can vote to change the rules at the state convention to UNBIND all delegates. In this case Ron Paul could pick up most of the delegates. NV has 28 BOUND delegates. If they become UNBOUND at the state convention, we would probably have at least 15 of them.

In CO, it sounds like we got about 50% of the UNBOUND delegates. So we'll probably have 18 of the 36. If Santy drops out, we could get a few more.

In MN, is sounds like we got over 75% of the delegates. So we'll probably get 30 of the 40 UNBOUND delegates.

In Maine, we'll probably get 75% of the delegates. So we'll probably get 18 of the 24 UNBOUND delegates.

AZ is winner take all with bound delegates. We probably won't get any as Romney won the state, unless this goes to a brokered convention and the delegates become UNBOUND. In this case we may get some of them if RP supporters are organized.

In MI, we didn't get any delegates, but there is the possibility that we could pick up the delegates that become UNBOUND if Santy drops out. Santy got 14 delegates. Some of them could go to RP. If it goes to a brokered convention RP could even get some of Romney's.

In WY, Ron Paul got at least 6 of the 29 possible. However, since this is a state with UNBOUND delegates Ron Paul will probably get more than that. Let's say he get's almost half of them, or 14.

In WA, there are 40 UNBOUND delegates. Based on ground reports, Ron Paul will probably get most of the delegates. Let's say he gets 25.

So if no one drops out, IA (20) + NH (3) + SC (0) + FL (0) + NV(15) + CO(18) + MN(30) + ME(18) + MI (0) + AZ(0) + WY(14) + WA(25) = 143

If BOTH Grinch and Santy drop out the delegate scenario could look something like this, assuming Ron Paul supporters were organized in becoming delegates (delegates would become UNBOUND when the candidate they are bound to drops out):

IA (20) + NH (3) + SC (15/23) + FL (0) + NV(20) + CO(18) + MN(30) + ME(18) + MI (10) + AZ(0) + WY(14) + WA(25) = 173

Of course these are just estimates, we won't know for sure until the delegate selection process is complete.

I'm really confused about why people don't understand how the delegates work. What is it that is causing the confusion?
 
No, Pierce County has 80.1% in. If we stay on top in King, we got this.

it does now, but Ron's margin went down, too.

The problem is only in the places Ron dominated did we get a public count. There were a bunch of areas where they refused to give the tally there. They can move those numbers any way they want, and after Maine, and with them pulling the same 'we will count them back at party headquarters' here, I really have no confidence.
 
Newt got beat by "others" in some counties, that boy needs to pack it up and go home.
He is the guy with really no chance
 
While I risk getting more negative rep I'm going to keep hammering this point home, not because I don't want Ron to win, but because I want people to sit back a bit and look at the bigger picture.

Ron is not in this to win this (I don't care what he says, he'd never admit in a million years this was the case) Ron is in this to build a movement that will unite the GOP and restore freedom to the country.

When you consider this is his main goal, not the POTUS, the fact he's 11/11 is pretty damn impressive and just shows how much everyone's work is paying off.

There is no ceiling to liberty and freedom.

We will win this in the long run if we don't lose sight of the fact this doesn't just stop after the election...
No negative rep from me.
But let's be careful not to talk about "winning" and "building a movement" as though they were mutually exclusive.
As I see it, there would be no better way for Ron to build a movement than to win.
 
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Back at you, but don't fool yourself into thinking this stops in 2012.

We all have to keep fighting to get people like us elected into the GOP for the foreseeable future.

Thats how we win this in the long run, and insure that all the work Ron Paul gave his life for was not for nothing...

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