Wash Post: RP did not write The Manifesto?

[libertythor]

You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine.

Did you print out and read the newsletters? I wrote the author at Reason and I got a link to newsletters. I think they took it down after a while. They were pretty bad. If you did not see the source documents then please reserve comments. Thank you.

I have seen a couple of scanned copies pasted on a forum. Is there a place to find more?

 

[llepard]

Holy fuck. If this is true, and Ron Paul was smeared by something Lou Rockwell wrote, and Lou DID NOT FUCKING STEP FORWARD and admit it, it just buried his character with me. Not that he cares....

The pro-State trolls seized on those damn newletters and lit up every post with racism slurs next to Ron Paul.

Here is an example:

Argument) Ron Paul thinks the Federal Reserve should be abolished because it is unconstitutional and confiscates our productivity via the inflation tax.
Response) Ron Paul is a racist.

Argument) All the money collected from the IRS goes to pay the debt owed to the Federal Reserve. Ron Paul thinks we should abolish the IRS and replace it with nothing. If we stopped unproductively policing the world and brought our troops home, we could easily afford to stop taxing income, return the loot government would have stolen from its rightful owners, and revived the economy, instead of giving Americans silly incentive checks.
Response) Ron Paul is a racist.

Besides, if the MSM drones can publish something Paul didn't do in 1992, I wonder why they give McCain a free pass on something he DID do in 1992:



Actually, I don't wonder at all. McCain will support the establishment. And they give him the term "maverick". I don't know about you folks, but I thought when Paul advocated the abolition of the FED and the IRS (amongst a slew of alphabet soup departments foisted upon us by FDR's "New Deal" in response to the FED engineering the Great Depression ON PURPOSE), now that's a maverick!

The media needs to perpetrate the hallucination of a "race to the Presidency", don't they?

Fine, ignore it if you like. Fine, complain that others are worse, and they are. But politics is about principle and winning. We lost enormous support and we lost the moral high ground because Ron Paul's intellectual god father lacks honor. That is my opinion. You can all disagree as much as you like. You may lack honor too.

LWL

 

[llepard]

I have seen a couple of scanned copies pasted on a forum. Is there a place to find more?

Go to the Reason website. They might still be there. David something at Reason may be able to help you find them. He wrote the articles. I have them at home, I will try to dig them out and pdf them.

 

[gilliganscorner]

Fine, ignore it if you like. Fine, complain that others are worse, and they are. But politics is about principle and winning. We lost enormous support and we lost the moral high ground because Ron Paul's intellectual god father lacks honor. That is my opinion. You can all disagree as much as you like.

LWL

A don't follow, Larry. I am stunned by this news.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Go to the Reason website. They might still be there. David something at Reason may be able to help you find them. He wrote the articles. I have them at home, I will try to dig them out and pdf them.

WHAT are you doing, Larry?

 

[LibertyEagle]

They are still in the Ron Paul organization. I am not going to disclose their names because I received the information in confidence. I have answered the question to my satisfaction. I suppose you have a better alternative explanation?

How do you think the newsletters got written? Huh?

Larry, the same way most newsletters get written. Most are farmed out to various freelance writers. The editor specifies the topic and authors step up to write them. The resultant articles are supposed to be vetted before they go in the newsletter itself. Apparently, some bad ones slipped through the cracks. Someone WAS fired for that back then. It was an editor.

This has been blown way out of proportion.

 

[MsDoodahs]

The Kochtopus has long and nasty tentacles....

they own many people...

 

[LibertyEagle]

Question. Isn't REASON funded by CATO? The very same CATO that came out in support of Giuliani for President? The very same CATO who Murray Rothbard split with years ago, because they had crossed over to the darkside and were no longer libertarians?

CATO has a bone to pick with the Mises Institute. They want to destroy it and with it, the last vestige of true libertarianism. If they have to take Ron Paul down to do it, they were quite willing and anxious to do it.

Don't fall for it. These pseudo-libertarians are to true libertarianism, the very same thing that neoconservatives are to true conservatism.

 

[MsDoodahs]

Familiarize yourself with the Kochtopus and the vendetta against Rothbard, Rockwell, and Paul.

Read here:

http://www.karendecoster.com/blog/archives/002884.html

 

[LibertyEagle]

It has everything to do with who is running the Institute and who works as his subordinate.

What? Rockwell was asked to head up The Mises Institute by Ludwig von Mises' widow! Isn't that good enough for you? Geesh.

 

[Feenix566]

Who cares???

 

[MsDoodahs]

My apologies, I meant to post this link to Karen's work rather than the link I posted above.

http://www.karendecoster.com/blog/archives/002714.html#002714

 

[cary]

Justin Raimondo tackled the charges of racism head-on, point-by-point, in this article:

Taki's Magazine: Why the Beltway Libertarians Are Trying to Smear Ron Paul

It puts into fuller context the old newsletter passages that have been showcased as proof of racism. It shows that the points being made, contrary to out-of-context quotes, are defensible libertarian views, and hardly evidence of racism.

He also shows what lengths certain vested interests (in addition to obvious statists) will go to smear people associated with the Mises Institute.

As we see, in the media temple of political correctness, high priests banish those who do not support awarding tax-funded medals to Rosa Parks. Other sins are dealt with more severely.

One of the purest pleasures of Ron's campaign was seeing his courage, standing on a national stage saying things that are not supposed to be said. But not even Ron dared defend the newsletters, knowing that, no matter how defensible the views, he would be swept away instantly on a tsunami of smear and condemnation. It simply was not worth it.

 

[constituent]

The Kochtopus has long and nasty tentacles....

they own many people...

i'm glad you spelled it right this time. your point is enormously important, whether it applies here or not.

i understood what you meant by "Kocktopus," but others might not have gotten it.

 

[Highland]

Get off his back Millie. You may like Lew Rockwell but many of us who know the score know what he did and did not do. He could easily have protected Ron and himself but he does not have enough honor or courage to do so.

The fucking indisputable fact of the matter is that Lew Rockwell wrote or oversaw the output of newsletters that were blatantly racist, condescending and inflammatory. I have talked to multiple sources that were there. PERIOD. He may have done it for the best of reasons (fire up his base and raise money, but the fact is he did it. ) Ron Paul's name was on the top of those newsletters. We fell apart on that issue. The newsletters hurt Ron Paul and the pure message that he is selling. Now, one of Ron's weaknesses, yes he has some, is that he is loyal to a fault. So he did not saw Lew off when he clearly should have.

In my mind this movement is about principles, not people. We are all flawed, but good people when they make a mistake admit it, take blame or apologize. We did not see too much out of Mr. Lew Rockwell in that regard, which does not speak to all of the other wonderful things he has done for this movement, it just speaks to who he is and what his character is. The evidence is the message.

I think that is the point the earlier posters were trying to make.

LWL

QFT.....thank you .... I am a she! That was exactly the point I wanted to make...that Lew should have owned up to it. Thanks

 

[LibertyEagle]

QFT.....thank you .... I am a she! That was exactly the point I wanted to make...that Lew should have owned up to it. Thanks

IF he did it. I'm sure you don't think he should own up to it, if he didn't do it, right?

C'mon, folks. Don't we have more important things to focus on?

OUR COUNTRY IS DYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are we going to do something to stop it, or are we going to sit here debating about a couple of newsletters that were written DECADES ago and whether Ron had a ghostwriter for his book?

 

[RSLudlum]

Exactly.

And I suppose Obama and Pelosi didn't have ghost writers, huh?

LOL...and we all know JFK authored his own books too <wink wink>

 

[Highland]

IF he did it. I'm sure you don't think he should own up to it, if he didn't do it, right?

C'mon, folks. Don't we have more important things to focus on?

OUR COUNTRY IS DYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are we going to do something to stop it, or are we going to sit here debating about a couple of newsletters that were written DECADES ago and whether Ron had a ghostwriter for his book?

I am just not blind to our human tenancies...and RP is loyal to a fault...bless his heart. He believes the best in people...that is why we love him, he believes in us as Americans! It really isn't a huge deal...about the ghost writer thing, I just am pointing out that Lew was the crack in our amour. I wanted him to win and did every thing I could. We still offer the free downloads on the commercials...torchbearer downloaded the other day for some work in Louisiana for RP grassroots. So any way...everyone has flaws...we shouldn't make him bigger than he is or wants to be.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Can we move on now?

 

[Highland]

Can we move on now?

Sure....you are a very nice moderator.