Was the shooter mentally ill?

[erowe1]

Three days before 20 year-old Adam Lanza killed his mother, then opened fire on
a classroom full of Connecticut kindergartners, his mother wrote these words : http://gawker.com/5968818/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother

Did you read it? It's written by Liza Long, a mother of another child (a 13-year-old) with a mental disability. When she says she's Adam Lanza's mother, she's speaking figuratively.

 

[pochy1776]

LOL at the people trying to psychologically diagnose someone they had never met,, based on media reports that are changing.
And based on a Media known to lie profusely to serve agendas.

Honestly,, you don't know shit. (I don't either) I don't know if this guy was a victim who was manipulated into this.
Or a would be hero who tried to stop the event.

I do know ,,from those same reports,,that they are NOT the truth.

Some assholes in the news forget the goldwater rule.

 

[tttppp]

A lot of Aspergers can be Honors students. in fact Aspies can be geniuses. How do you know he was able to function properly? How do you know the disease is made up? You do know that this disease affects people that can't do or say anything without having educational PATRIOT ACT on your fucking back. Every time some dip shit teacher telling you that "you can't do that" or you said something that people misinterpret or have to kiss the fucking ass of. Every time, everywhere the education system sees you, hears you, tries to use the cherished people against you, and tell you that your some sick guy who has good grades but just because you have social problems we have to hold you back or, hold you back and say dors will be open with your bullshit talking fucks rather than credentials and skill. So don't tell me its bullshit, thats just a slap in the face for every kid that has to have a personal patriot act down their fucking neck. The problem is not psychiatry or the aspergers. Its the stupid teachers, social workers, state systems and all that shitty jazz that impacts your life. "social skills" my fucking ass. I tell that ARGOFUCKYOURSELF

It said in that article that he was an honors student. So most likely he was functioning well, maybe better than your average kid. My point is why label these kids with these problems when they can function. Telling a kid he has a debilitating disease doesn't help him unless you teach him to overcome it. Or else it just becomes a crutch for them. Nobody likes being told they have a screw loose their whole life, especially when they probably don't.

 

[pochy1776]

It said in that article that he was an honors student. So most likely he was functioning well, maybe better than your average kid. My point is why label these kids with these problems when they can function. Telling a kid he has a debilitating disease doesn't help him unless you teach him to overcome it. Or else it just becomes a crutch for them. Nobody likes being told they have a screw loose their whole life, especially when they probably don't.

You do have a fucking point. Like i said, a lot of honors students do have aspergers. The problem is that people want them to shed off something that defines them. WHether it is good or not is immaterial. The sucky thing is that the news forgot the goldwater rule.

 

[donnay]

LOL at the people trying to psychologically diagnose someone they had never met,, based on media reports that are changing.
And based on a Media known to lie profusely to serve agendas.

Honestly,, you don't know shit. (I don't either) I don't know if this guy was a victim who was manipulated into this.
Or a would be hero who tried to stop the event.

I do know ,,from those same reports,,that they are NOT the truth.

It has been my experience the very people shouting that someone is mentally ill are the ones who are mentally ill. Look throughout history all the Totalitarians who were mentally ill.

http://rexcurry.net/mental-illness-psychopaths-sociopaths-socialists-insanity.html

 

[Brian4Liberty]

http://gawker.com/5968818/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother

Did you read it? It's written by Liza Long, a mother of another child (a 13-year-old) with a mental disability. When she says she's Adam Lanza's mother, she's speaking figuratively.

Interesting article.

- the variety of disorders described is relatively common. Yes, these shooters were crazy and showed signs, but that in no way means that other people will do the same thing. Collectivist, pre-crime "solutions" are a real danger. No one can predict the future. What solutions will our brilliant politicians come up with?

- Speaking of solutions, the medical system is so messed up when it comes to this. Nothing but drug prescribing experiments. 5 minute medicine.

 

[donnay]

Yes, and it sucked. Royally.

It is incumbent upon you to make it not suck. Do your own research!

 

[pochy1776]

It is incumbent upon you to make it not suck. Do your own research!

Where shall i go great danno.

 

[Deborah K]

Yes, the whole Ryan Lanza facebook thing was a great diversion.

I just think that was bad investigative journalism and the media jumping the gun. Good thing the "goddamn detectives" dug a little deeper into it. They were the first ones to uncover the irresponsibility of the media.

 

[squarepusher]

Interesting article.

- the variety of disorders described is relatively common. Yes, these shooters were crazy and showed signs, but that in no way means that other people will do the same thing. Collectivist, pre-crime "solutions" are a real danger. No one can predict the future. What solutions will our brilliant politicians come up with?

- Speaking of solutions, the medical system is so messed up when it comes to this. Nothing but drug prescribing experiments. 5 minute medicine.

The article was interesting, but I doubt it was many similarities to Adam Lanza. Her son sounds like he has a long history of behavioral problems, mental hospital visits, and police 9-11 calls. Adam Lanza I believe, who was a loner, as well as the Colorado Batman shooter , did not have a history of violence or police encounters. Their "break" was their first violent outburst, before that they were considered just 'weird' and detached/flat.

If he did have a history of violence, I'm sure all weapons would have been restricted to him (if you read the article the mom says she hides all sharp objects in tupperware and takes them with her).

 

[pcosmar]

Their "break" was their first violent outburst,

And they are already convicted of a crime,, with no real evidence presented. (Tried by the Media)

I would like to see ballistic evidence. Who was shot with which guns. (Was anybody shot with the guns he had)
How many .223 cases were recovered. etc.

Too many things in yet another case that leave more questions than answers.

 

[nicname]

I a person shoots up a grade school after killing his own mother, then yes, that person is mentally ill. Autism, Asberger's aren't made up. ADD, bi-polar and the rest aren't made up. The problem is the way people who suffer from these kinds of illnesses are treated, and the over-diagnoses of regular people that probably aren't suffering from a serious mental illness.

 

[bolil]

Here's the catch, who "mentally well" right now will always remain so? Can anyone tell me? Is it someone that dresses a certain way, or thinks, or votes? Seems like mental illness deserves a very broad definition. I bite my fingernails, am I mentally ill? I like the smell of my own farts, am I mentally ill? Negative, sad thing about crime is that it requires victims. Sad thing about victims: they are ridden like horses, and once their purpose is fulfilled they are thrown aside and slaughtered for their meat and hooves. Remember animal farm?

 

[squarepusher]

And they are already convicted of a crime,, with no real evidence presented. (Tried by the Media)

I would like to see ballistic evidence. Who was shot with which guns. (Was anybody shot with the guns he had)
How many .223 cases were recovered. etc.

Too many things in yet another case that leave more questions than answers.

ok, MKULTRA experiment setup by government to ban you guns? Do you have any evidence for your theory other than blanket mistrust and disgust for the government?

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Are there any witnesses that SAW the guy do the shooting? Okay, there's a dead guy on the floor...did anyone actually see him shoot anyone?

 

[pcosmar]

ok, MKULTRA experiment setup by government to ban you guns? Do you have any evidence for your theory other than blanket mistrust and disgust for the government?

"my Guns" are already banned. I am disarmed.

And yes,, I have quite a lot of evidence to mistrust the government.

I also can pull up a lot of evidence of Media Lies and Manipulation.

 

[pcosmar]

Are there any witnesses that SAW the guy do the shooting? Okay, there's a dead guy on the floor...did anyone actually see him shoot anyone?

Not that I know of.
But somehow the police and media was reporting 3 dead including the shooter and the .223 rifle (that was in the trunk of a car)
BUT COULDN'T COUNT THE REST OF THE BODIES IN THE ROOM.

Several things in this store do not make any kind of logical sense.(the way the story is told)

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Not that I know of.
But somehow the police and media was reporting 3 dead including the shooter and the .223 rifle (that was in the trunk of a car)
BUT COULDN'T COUNT THE REST OF THE BODIES IN THE ROOM.

Several things in this store do not make any kind of logical sense.(the way the story is told)

From what I've gathered, he had 2 handguns (9mm) next to him, and a .223 was found in the back seat or trunk (I think I saw video of it being removed from the back seat).

Were there witnesses that actually saw the FACE of the perp at the batman movie episode (at the time of the shooting)?

 

[pcosmar]

From what I've gathered, he had 2 handguns (9mm) next to him, and a .223 was found in the back seat or trunk (I think I saw video of it being removed from the back seat).

That is what I have heard.
But I also heard the police spokesman say the a .223 was involved,, and that was before his car had been searched, they also were looking for a second shooter. (and one was arrested)

Were there witnesses that actually saw the FACE of the perp at the batman movie episode (at the time of the shooting)?

That would be impossible.. if he was wearing a gas mask as reported. Though who was wearing the second gas mask is still a puzzle.

 

[squarepusher]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistics


But you are free to believe whatever you want regardless of evidence, thats what's great about this country! (at least for now lol!)