Patriot123
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Please. Please stop the stereotyping. I am defending the notion that we were founded upon Christian principles, but yet I am not "the right Evangelical Christians" you speak of. Study up on Ron Paul and maybe you will learn not to categorize people and actually treat them as individuals, especially since you don't know me. If you weren't talking about me, all the more reason to keep that collectivist crap out of here.
If commonly held principles are seen as Christian principles, as I pointed out the founders of the country did, then of course those commonly held founding principles are "Christian." Don't we talk about sticking to the original meaning of the constitution and not try to rewrite it? Maybe we should stick to what the common people of the time viewed as Christian principles, and go with that. Or would that conflict with your ideology?
My anaylsis is based on clear and concise research. I also am willing to admit that there were other influences besides Christianity on the founders as well. I pointed that out several times.
First and foremost, I'm not a racist, which you seem to be implying. I'm just simply stating that many of the Christians in this thread persist on calling America a Christian nation, which it is absolutely not. The one reason why I love this country is for the fact that it was founded neutrally, with peace and liberty and mind. And is just so happens that a large majority. if not all of the people who are doing this are Evangelical Christians. And I'm not trying to "re-write the constitution." There's nothing in the damn thing which says we're affiliated with any religion. We were founded neutrally in terms of religious beliefs, and saying that just because our society believes murder and rape are wrong that we're automatically a Christian nation is hypocrisy and you know it. Christianity did not have any affect on this nations founding. The only thing that did was the pursuit of freedom, liberty and happiness. If our founders had Christianity in mind, they would have at least had some references to Christianity or the bible in our constitution. And there is none. If there is, please point it out to me, because there quite simply is no refference.
Better yet, here. The founders were pretty intelligent men, right? We can agree on that, right? Good. The founders knew well enough what they wanted, which was freedom. Agreed? Good. So if the founders were intelligent, and wanted freedom, then they would have been intelligent enough to make some sort of refference to Christianity if their intent was to found it upon Christian principles. Christianity, Jesus, or anything of the like is not mentioned. As such, we're not a Christian nation, and were not founded upon Christian principles, but rather commonly held principles which did not belong to any religion.