Victim blaming and even clothing that isn't tight results in women getting constantly cat-called.
When you're a white chick walking alone in Harlem, yeah. Under normal circumstances, no.
What is your point? That if you grow up in a culture where it's prevalent, you're more likely to emulate that behavior?
My point is that if you hang around low-class people you'll encounter low-class behavior.
Look at all the so-called pick-up artists; a lot of them are white. They do this very thing except to a greater extreme. Not sure why you're bringing up 'thuggish black men' when women get it from men of all backgrounds.
Did you actually watch the video?
One guy who said something offensive was white.
They do this very thing except to a greater extreme. Not sure why you're bringing up 'thuggish black men' when women get it from men of all backgrounds.
No they're not getting it from men of all backgrounds, only the slimeballs, and the bulk where black men in Harlem. Note that not one of those men was decently dressed. You are treating the captions as if they were fact, when in fact the video itself contradicts it. You are weak-minded and easily influenced by propaganda, it appears.
Which parts? Where they were being 'polite' to the woman? The intent behind that is obviously more than a simple hello. You wouldn't see these people being that openly friendly to anyone else in NYC unless there were some other motive behind it.
Oh, really? I lived in NYC quite some time, and I got plenty of simple hellos from people. There are people in NYC who do that, believe it or not. Again, these things are being presented to you in a specific context so you buy the context, whether or not the evidence actually fits.
It happens in all parts of NYC, more in some parts than others of course, but why should time of day and location even matter?
Who is being "willfully ignorant" now? Take your white ass on a 2 AM stroll through Bed-Stuy and tell me how it goes for you. When you get robbed and beaten, tell me how unfair it is that you were a complete idiot.
What if that's the route a woman has to take throughout her day? Or are you going to blame them for not going out of their way to avoid certain places because some men can't control themselves?
Because of course every woman spends 10 hours a day walking in the streets of NYC, right?
I'm not understanding what you're getting at here. That there's no way this could happen and they were clearly provoking it in some way because you find another woman to be more attractive in that particular shot? This isn't a good point at all.
What I'm getting at is it is absolutely trivial to provoke many of these behaviors, if your intent is to create a feminist propaganda video. All she needs to do is lock eyes with a target and edit out the come-on part. Note we do not get to see the parts leading up to the behaviors.
Why don't you ask them or check out tons of other videos showing this happens frequently on the daily? Because it does. I see it all the time and have heard stories from female friends. Hell, I've had it happen to women I was dating right in front of my face.
Me too. Here's a clue train coming through - it's NEW YORK FUCKING CITY. The most densely populated place in America. There's a lot of other shit that happens every single day to everyone - aggressive panhandling, for one; solicitations to buy drugs; people accosting other people in the street for a wide variety of reasons. You could make this
exact same video to present the case that any one of these things is epidemic and omnipresent. It's a function of being in a big city - if you can't deal with it, then move the hell out. When you live in New York City, you have to learn not to care about the stupid and offensive things you see going on around you.
When you try to analyze these things, you can't think about it from a male point of view.
Because, of course, the intent is to produce a piece of feminist propaganda, the male point of view must be discounted entirely, right?
Men don't get constantly cat-called while walking down the street like women do nor do they fear being sexually assaulted by an aggressive stranger. A guy might think it's flattering because he doesn't experience the 'joys' of being constantly shouted and cat-called, so any compliment for a man will be flattering since it happens so infrequently in this manner. Your average woman has to put up with these advances, creepy behavior and cat-calls just for walking down the street minding their own business every day. It's not difficult to understand why random strangers even saying something as simple as "have a good day" or whatever it is, can be annoying or come across as an advance.
If you think this way, you don't belong in a city - period. That line of thinking ranges from paranoid to just plain arrogant.
You've made 90 seconds of video filmed over 10 hours - most of which was a single white woman walking alone in places where a single white woman should not be walking alone - into something completely other than what it actually is. None of my female friends or acquaintances in New York felt so oppressed living there - none. And I have known hundreds of them. And the reason why is that this video is completely atypical of the actual experience of real human beings in real-world conditions.
If you had to watch the entire 10 hours of film, you'd be like, this is pretty boring, not much happening here.
Take your propaganda-twisted opinions and stick them where the sun don't shine. Those of us who have real experience and know the terrain find nothing terribly shocking about this video, and much deceptive about it.
