WAPO: Vulgar video of Trump Recorded in 2005

[Madison320]

But even men who are attracted to girls in their mid-teens aren't necessarily hebephiles because being attracted to a girl in her mid-teens is perfectly normal and natural. Being attracted to a 10 year old girl is not, and would put one in the category of pedophile whether they like older women also or not. A hebephile is someone who is primarily attracted to girls in their mid-teens. Epstein fits this description, but not Trump or Clinton. They seem to be attracted to women in general, mid-teens through their 30s, which is perfectly normal.

I totally agree. That reminds me of the Seinfeld cleavage episode!

 

[Antischism]

This is a terrible analogy because the novel is about two consenting adults. Also, it's a work of fiction.

 

[dannno]

This is a terrible analogy because the novel is about two consenting adults. Also, it's a work of fiction.

When has Trump ever done anything without the woman's consent? There have been some accusations, but the timing is dubious, there's no proof he has ever done anything non-consensual.

Even when he grabbed their va jay jays, he said they let him do it because he was rich and powerful. That says more about the women being whores than him doing anything non-consensual.

 

[nikcers]

When has Trump ever done anything without the woman's consent? There have been some accusations, but the timing is dubious, there's no proof he has ever done anything non-consensual.

Even when he grabbed their va jay jays, he said they let him do it because he was rich and powerful. That says more about the women being whores than him doing anything non-consensual.

I knew the Trump supporters were all going to come out and say that Trump touched their vagina in some sort of im Spartacus dick measuring contest but this is gold. Can you go on..

 

[juleswin]

When has Trump ever done anything without the woman's consent? There have been some accusations, but the timing is dubious, there's no proof he has ever done anything non-consensual.

Even when he grabbed their va jay jays, he said they let him do it because he was rich and powerful. That says more about the women being whores than him doing anything non-consensual.

You do know the meaning of consent right?

1.
permission for something to happen or agreement to do something.

You don't get consent after you do something without permission. This is how people get in trouble with women. Also we know from devil's mouth that he barges into women's room without knocking. Trump doesn't seem to be like someone who makes sure to gets permission before engaging women.

 

[dannno]

I knew the Trump supporters were all going to come out and say that Trump touched their vagina in some sort of im Spartacus dick measuring contest but this is gold. Can you go on..

I'm not sure what is so difficult for you to understand. I've had women touch me without my express permission plenty of times and I welcomed it, therefore it was consensual. It's the same thing in the other direction. Unless the person tries to stop you, or makes it apparent after that it is not welcomed then it is consensual. Only the god-awful anti-sex feminists who promote positive consent think that EVERY thing you do to someone else needs prior consent. If you go in for a kiss and the woman doesn't want to kiss, then she backs off. It's very simple. If you go in so fast she can't move, or she is in a position where she can't move, see you, or you block her from moving and kiss her anyway and it was unwelcomed then it is non-consensual. But he claimed that all of that contact he referred to was consensual when by saying that they let him do it. If they didn't want him to do it, then they needed to back away or say "excuse me, please don't touch me there", but clearly according to his words that they let him do it, this did not happen.

This is why Trump is winning. People who live in reality are sick of bullshit like this. The media is still stuck in the 90s when a lot of these stupid new weird sex myths started being widely accepted. Most people just went along with it because they didn't think it would do any harm, but that is over with. Society has gone overboard on bullshit. Stop perpetuating it.

 

[Antischism]

When has Trump ever done anything without the woman's consent? There have been some accusations, but the timing is dubious, there's no proof he has ever done anything non-consensual.

Even when he grabbed their va jay jays, he said they let him do it because he was rich and powerful. That says more about the women being whores than him doing anything non-consensual.

How do you feel about Bill Cosby? I don't think you understand how consent works.

It's one thing if you're talking with someone and you both slowly progress towards implied consent through mutual body language, it's another entirely to do what Trump admitted to and has been accused of by various women. That's sexual assault, not a situation involving two consenting adults. Kissing your partner without asking for permission is implied consent (unless they tell you not to and you still do it), grabbing someone's vagina or ass knowing you're going to get away with it because of your status and power is sexual assault (Bill Cosby).

 

[dannno]

How do you feel about Bill Cosby? I don't think you understand how consent works.

Are you trolling? You have to be fucking kidding me.. Bill Cosby put things in women's drinks so that when he did stuff, they couldn't say no. Trump never did anything like that. He did stuff, they LET him, they were coherent.. So this really has no place in the discussion, it amazes me that you would even bring it up.

It's one thing if you're talking with someone and you both slowly progress towards implied consent through mutual body language, it's another entirely to do what Trump admitted to and has been accused of by various women. That's sexual assault, not a situation involving two consenting adults. Kissing your partner without asking for permission is implied consent (unless they tell you not to and you still do it), grabbing someone's vagina or ass knowing you're going to get away with it because of your status and power is sexual assault.

You have no idea in what context Trump did those things, you are making some huge assumptions.. You are assuming he just walked up to random women and did that. In all likelihood he made some other physical maneuvers first, like an arm around them or something. But the fact remains, if he does something like that and there are no complaints or drawbacks, and the person is coherent (do I even need to say that??) then it is consensual. Because people do that stuff all the time. People slap other people's behinds - men and women do it - when it is unexpected. If there is no complaint from the receiver, it's not assault.

You know, SOME people enjoy the occasional unexpected butt slap. You going all fascist on everybody takes that enjoyment away from those who like it. If it is welcomed, if there are no complaints there is nothing wrong. If you don't like it, you have the responsibility to make it known so you don't ruin everybody else's enjoyment of life.

 

[nikcers]

This is why Trump is winning. .

LOL

 

[Antischism]

Are you trolling? You have to be $#@!ing kidding me.. Bill Cosby put things in women's drinks so that when he did stuff, they couldn't say no. Trump never did anything like that. He did stuff, they LET him, they were coherent.. So this really has no place in the discussion, it amazes me that you would even bring it up.




You have no idea in what context Trump did those things, you are making some huge assumptions.. You are assuming he just walked up to random women and did that. In all likelihood he made some other physical maneuvers first, like an arm around them or something. But the fact remains, if he does something like that and there are no complaints or drawbacks, and the person is coherent (do I even need to say that??) then it is consensual. Because people do that stuff all the time. People slap other people's behinds - men and women do it - when it is unexpected. If there is no complaint from the receiver, it's not assault.

You know, SOME people enjoy the occasional unexpected butt slap. You going all fascist on everybody takes that enjoyment away from those who like it. If it is welcomed, if there are no complaints there is nothing wrong. If you don't like it, you have the responsibility to make it known so you don't ruin everybody else's enjoyment of life.

Sure I do — Trump said it himself. The women accusing Trump have been very clear, as well. You can call them liars and try to dig up their histories in an attempt to poison the well, but indeed, Bill Cosby used his status and wealth to sexually assault women to varying degrees (it wasn't just him messing with their drinks). In Bill Cosby's case, people also refused to believe his victims. In Cosby's case, the victims remained silent for many years. There are plenty of similarities between the two. In fact, Trump isn't a stranger to rape/attempted rape accusations himself.

 

[Anti Federalist]

This is a terrible analogy because the novel is about two consenting adults. Also, it's a work of fiction.

I think it is a perfect analogy, since, as far as I know, the outrage directed at Trump is because of what he said, not about what he may have done.

But hey, whatever, I really could not possibly care less, I just thought it was kind of a funny meme.

The partisan bickering may now continue...

 

[The Rebel Poet]

This is why Trump is winning.

Possibly the funniest thing ever written on RPF.

 

[dannno]

Sure I do — Trump said it himself. The women accusing Trump have been very clear, as well. You can call them liars and try to dig up their histories in an attempt to poison the well, but indeed, Bill Cosby used his status and wealth to sexually assault women to varying degrees (it wasn't just him messing with their drinks). In Bill Cosby's case, people also refused to believe his victims. In Cosby's case, the victims remained silent for many years. There are plenty of similarities between the two. In fact, Trump isn't a stranger to rape/attempted rape accusations himself.

Assuming we are living in a world with a criminal justice system, like we have, if a woman lets a man do stuff sexually to them because they are rich and powerful, that they wouldn't let him do if he was poor and had no power, what does that make them?

 

[dannno]

Possibly the funniest thing ever written on RPF.

Right, they just poll more Democrats whenever they want those lines to shift. We can totally believe what the polls say.

 

[The Rebel Poet]

Right, they just poll more Democrats whenever they want those lines to shift. We can totally believe what the polls say.

Can you show examples of them changing the demographic mix to shift the race or are you full of shit?

 

[dannno]

Can you show examples of them changing the demographic mix to shift the race or are you full of shit?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-11/latest-nbcwsj-poll-utter-nonsense


It amazes me that the same mainstream media who totally railroaded Ron and Rand Paul are now the alter of worship for the anti-Trump crowd around here. I'm not even pro-Trump, but it is very obvious what they are doing. Why they are doing it? I have no good answer for that, it is not apparent.

 

[nikcers]

I'm not sure what is so difficult for you to understand. I've had women touch me without my express permission plenty of times and I welcomed it, therefore it was consensual. It's the same thing in the other direction. Unless the person tries to stop you, or makes it apparent after that it is not welcomed then it is consensual. Only the god-awful anti-sex feminists who promote positive consent think that EVERY thing you do to someone else needs prior consent. If you go in for a kiss and the woman doesn't want to kiss, then she backs off. It's very simple. If you go in so fast she can't move, or she is in a position where she can't move, see you, or you block her from moving and kiss her anyway and it was unwelcomed then it is non-consensual. But he claimed that all of that contact he referred to was consensual when by saying that they let him do it. If they didn't want him to do it, then they needed to back away or say "excuse me, please don't touch me there", but clearly according to his words that they let him do it, this did not happen.

This is why Trump is winning. People who live in reality are sick of bull$#@! like this. The media is still stuck in the 90s when a lot of these stupid new weird sex myths started being widely accepted. Most people just went along with it because they didn't think it would do any harm, but that is over with. Society has gone overboard on bull$#@!. Stop perpetuating it.

 

[dannno]

lol, duh, women typically don't date younger men...

Look, they are both right - the comment Trump made about dating the young girl in 10 years was not appropriate - and the anchor was correct about that - but, he is right because it also doesn't imply anything pedophiliac or whatever.. Recognizing that a younger person will likely grow up to be attractive is a quality that many people who are VERY far from pedophiles have. I've heard older female relatives make those type of comments about grand nephews/nieces and what-not in a very innocent way.. I've heard people from all walks of life make similar types of comments. Adding in that he is going to date her in 10 years is not appropriate to say, but it didn't imply he wanted to have sex with the 10 year old, and that is what the media and many other people have been trying to imply.

 

[Ender]

I'm not sure what is so difficult for you to understand. I've had women touch me without my express permission plenty of times and I welcomed it, therefore it was consensual. It's the same thing in the other direction. Unless the person tries to stop you, or makes it apparent after that it is not welcomed then it is consensual. Only the god-awful anti-sex feminists who promote positive consent think that EVERY thing you do to someone else needs prior consent. If you go in for a kiss and the woman doesn't want to kiss, then she backs off. It's very simple. If you go in so fast she can't move, or she is in a position where she can't move, see you, or you block her from moving and kiss her anyway and it was unwelcomed then it is non-consensual. But he claimed that all of that contact he referred to was consensual when by saying that they let him do it. If they didn't want him to do it, then they needed to back away or say "excuse me, please don't touch me there", but clearly according to his words that they let him do it, this did not happen.

This is why Trump is winning. People who live in reality are sick of bull$#@! like this. The media is still stuck in the 90s when a lot of these stupid new weird sex myths started being widely accepted. Most people just went along with it because they didn't think it would do any harm, but that is over with. Society has gone overboard on bull$#@!. Stop perpetuating it.

Consensual sex is usually between 2 people who've known each other for a while.

According to most the women who had altercations w/Trump they did back away, etc- one was already backed up against a wall. Also, if the perp is your boss, it might be a little scary to tell him to get the hell away from you.

Many women have been assaulted by men and no amount of pushing or telling them to stop it does any good. Men are also usually bigger, stronger, and more intimidating. Rape is not a myth and women experience a lot of non-consensual crap all the time.

And I am NOT into the silly feminism garbage so popular today- just have some relatives that have experienced some serious sexual assaults.

 

[Antischism]

I think it is a perfect analogy, since, as far as I know, the outrage directed at Trump is because of what he said, not about what he may have done.

But hey, whatever, I really could not possibly care less, I just thought it was kind of a funny meme.

The partisan bickering may now continue...

Both are issues; however, what he said is that he sexually assaults women (lack of consent).

Assuming we are living in a world with a criminal justice system, like we have, if a woman lets a man do stuff sexually to them because they are rich and powerful, that they wouldn't let him do if he was poor and had no power, what does that make them?

Assuming we're living in the real world and not an alternate reality, women don't have otherworldly ninja-like skills where they can evade sexual assault at all times. If the owner of a business is interviewing a potential employee and grabs her breasts or puts his hand up her skirt without consent — and completely out of the blue — would you earnestly say the woman was allowing it to happen? That she consented because she wasn't fast enough to prevent it? That potentially, her being intimidated and taken by surprise meant it was consent? You can't be serious.