WAPO: Vulgar video of Trump Recorded in 2005

[juleswin]

 

[CPUd]

 

[jmdrake]

Ya his ex-wife said she lied about that because she was going through divorce and was trying to get the upper hand to get more money.. Sounds like Trump was the victim here.

Bill Clinton has PLENTY of women who have corroborated very similar stories independently and have never come out otherwise.

And where were you when it was time to defend Ted Cruz from adultery allegations in the National Inquirer?

Dude, read the article you just posted!!

Epstein and Trump "know each other" and that is the extent of what they have on him, while Bill Clinton took 26 - count 'em 26 trips to Epstein Island..

The whole Trump raped an underage girl lawsuit is brand new, we barely have any info on it.. most likely a political stunt and totally bogus based on the timing.

Right. Anything that goes against Trump must be biased. But when Trump's buddies at the national fucking inquirer ran stories against Cruz that was legit. Save your fake outrage for your fellow Trumpskiies.

 

[dannno]

And where were you when it was time to defend Ted Cruz from adultery allegations in the National Inquirer?.

I have less problem with the audultary itself (although in some cases I do find adultery pretty deplorable, but not always, it is situation dependent) and more problems with how Ted Cruz tries to portray himself, then being an adulterer.

Trump likely did so too, but he portrays himself as that kind of person and I have more respect for that then the person who portrays himself like Ted Cruz and is exactly the opposite.

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Right. Anything that goes against Trump must be biased. But when Trump's buddies at the national fucking inquirer ran stories against Cruz that was legit. Save your fake outrage for your fellow Trumpskiies.

Well what I know is that 90% of the negative stuff out there about Trump is totally bias and manipulated - there are quite a few things about Trump I don't like but those are hardly if ever mentioned.

So going into it knowing there is a very concerted, huge, strong bias against Trump it makes me take what they say against him with a grain of salt, and deservedly so.

 

[vonMises]

Trump can never be healed. The psychological projection is palpable.

If you know anything about Ayn Rand and the Brandens, the way in which Hillary arranges/encourages Weiner to marry Huma, both of them having strong personal ties to her and Bill, with Huma having a level of intimacy with Hilary that Ayn Rand seems to have had with Nathaniel Branden (before it ever became sexual and whether Huma herself was ever sexual with Hillary), it sounds eerily like a snippet out of Ayn Rand's life.

 

[vonMises]

If the Russians really want to win this November they will need to go after Weiner and Huma. Huma is at the heart of the email scandal and Weiner's problems are all too obvious now but it was Hillary that personally put these two together as a married couple, abetted their careers and wanted to give them as much power as they needed in their respective careers. These two individuals should be liabilities to anyone involved with them yet Hilary goes to bat for them anyway and can't put her feelings to the side when it comes to them, especially Huma.

 

[jmdrake]

I have less problem with the audultary itself (although in some cases I do find adultery pretty deplorable, but not always, it is situation dependent) and more problems with how Ted Cruz tries to portray himself, then being an adulterer.

You are dodging the point. THERE IS NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE OF TED CRUZ COMMITTING ADULTERY! THERE IS MORE CREDIBILITY OF TRUMP SEXUALLY ASSAULTING WOMEN THAN THERE IS FOR CRUZ COMMITTING ADULTERY!

Off on absolutely nothing you assume Cruz committed adultery and lied about it. But one of the Epbstein victims says Trump raped her and that must a lie.

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

Shouldn't the hand be smaller?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Ironically, while never hearing the phrase "grab them by the pussy" before, it seems to have become a common phrase in the past couple of weeks.

 

[nikcers]

Ironically, while never hearing the phrase "grab them by the pussy" before, it seems to have become a common phrase in the past couple of weeks.

Really? My dad always told me two things, if you are not first you are last and sometimes you just got to grab life by the pussy, or life grabs you by the pussy. Or was that Thomas Jefferson?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Really? My dad always told me two things, if you are not first you are last and sometimes you just got to grab life by the pussy, or life grabs you by the pussy. Or was that Thomas Jefferson?

Might have been Gandhi.

 

[Anti Federalist]

 

[Madison320]

This news coverage is hilarious! The Trump sex stuff might have some merit except he's running against Bill Clinton's(Mr. Sex Scandal Himself) wife! Apparently the irony is lost on the media.

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

IMO, anyone who can't acknowledge the guy is a lecherous lout has some serious head in the sand issues. While I can understand the fear of Hillary putting them in that position, his behavior remains indefensible. While people talk about the tape and it's ramifications I remember Trump saying about his pedophile friend Jeffrey Epstein,

"terrific guy... [who likes his women] on the younger side"

Both Hillary and Trump had this scum in their midst for years, yet he continued to operate...

IMO - Pedophiles are among the lowest form of humanity, followed closely by their enablers. Support who you want, but know who you are standing with...

 

[euphemia]

Going in a different direction, let's just suppose Trump called a press conference to say: "You know, I have gone back to listen to what I said so many years ago and I realize that I was really a jerk, and I see how wrong I was to act that way. I don't want to be that kind of man any more. I have good people around me who will hold me accountable from this moment on and I can promise you Donald Trump will sound different because I am determined to be a better man."

What do you think would happen?

 

[misterx]

Going in a different direction, let's just suppose Trump called a press conference to say: "You know, I have gone back to listen to what I said so many years ago and I realize that I was really a jerk, and I see how wrong I was to act that way. I don't want to be that kind of man any more. I have good people around me who will hold me accountable from this moment on and I can promise you Donald Trump will sound different because I am determined to be a better man."

What do you think would happen?

The media would say you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Going in a different direction, let's just suppose Trump called a press conference to say: "You know, I have gone back to listen to what I said so many years ago and I realize that I was really a jerk, and I see how wrong I was to act that way. I don't want to be that kind of man any more. I have good people around me who will hold me accountable from this moment on and I can promise you Donald Trump will sound different because I am determined to be a better man."

What do you think would happen?

TRUMP FLIP FLOPS!

TRUMP BACK PEDALS ON LECHERY!!

And then the NYT would run some subdued, "thoughtful", headline.

Again, I am no fan of Trump's, and I agree with RPH's assessment of his character.

But that doesn't mean I can't take some joy in the hornet's nest he is stirring up among people I loathe equally as much.

 

[juleswin]

Just because someone enjoys a behavior in a controlled, scripted environment like movies and books doesn't mean they would tolerate said activity in real life. Look at how violent music, look at video games. The best selling video games of all time is Grand theft auto 5 a game where you can have sex with prostitute and then kill them before paying, run over civilians, kill the police amongst many other depraved behavior. But I would be you that those same mothers and adult customers buying those games for their children and themselves would be outraged if anyone acted that stuff out in real life.

A lot of people can separate entertainment with reality. This is normal behavior for many people.

 

[dannno]

IMO - Pedophiles are among the lowest form of humanity, followed closely by their enablers.

Obviously you can't even correctly define the word "pedophile".

There is no indication that either Bill Clinton or Donald Trump are pedophiles. Biden might be, but I haven't seen any evidence for Clinton being one. Even Clinton's alleged sex tape with a 13 year old does not prove that. Pedophiles like girls who are undeveloped, usually in the 8-12 range, but around 13 or 14 is the cut-off, depending on individual development. After that, there is a word called hebephile. With Bill Clinton's alleged sex tape with a 13 year old, we see him hitting the very low range of a hebephile, but as you will see from my arguments, he isn't even one of those. Epstein probably is a hebephile.

Just because Trump said he might be dating a 10 year old in 10 years doesn't mean he wanted to date the 10 year old. A hot 20 year old isn't just hot because of her boobs and ass sticking out. There are some characteristics that a hot 20 year old will share with a "pretty" 10 year old girl, and it is possible to predict to some degree the attractiveness that a young girl may have later in life without actually being sexually attracted to the girl at that time.

But even men who are attracted to girls in their mid-teens aren't necessarily hebephiles because being attracted to a girl in her mid-teens is perfectly normal and natural. Being attracted to a 10 year old girl is not, and would put one in the category of pedophile whether they like older women also or not. A hebephile is someone who is primarily attracted to girls in their mid-teens. Epstein fits this description, but not Trump or Clinton. They seem to be attracted to women in general, mid-teens through their 30s, which is perfectly normal.

That doesn't mean it is responsible or ethical to act on those urges, necessarily, and we can certainly discuss that - society's structure has changed, education has changed how society functions and we have come to a general agreement that girls that age should be going to school and preparing for long-term romantic relationships when they get older by dating boys their age for several years. How has that worked out, by the way? Not very well. Divorce rates and single parent households are through the roof. So society messed up by trying to change the natural biological function of humans who were evolved for starting a family at a younger age.

It was typical for men to marry girls as early as 13-14 age range throughout all of humanity. There is nothing logical or rational you can say that will make very many men feel guilty for being attracted to girls in their mid-teens, it is how we were designed. A "normal" man will be attracted to girls in their mid-teens, although they may not act on it or make it apparent, but a "normal" man will also be attracted to women in their 20s and 30s. So on the other hand, it doesn't mean older men should be targeting girls that young, but to say that there is something wrong with them for having some attraction to them is just not rational or logical.

 

[euphemia]

TRUMP FLIP FLOPS!

TRUMP BACK PEDALS ON LECHERY!!

And then the NYT would run some subdued, "thoughtful", headline.

Again, I am no fan of Trump's, and I agree with RPH's assessment of his character.

But that doesn't mean I can't take some joy in the hornet's nest he is stirring up among people I loathe equally as much.

I think you are probably right on that score, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. I think very few people on earth have been confronted with their own behavior in quite the way Trump has in this election cycle. If he can take a step back and do some soul searching, I think he could convince people he plans to be a different man moving forward. I just look at the people who have been in his inner circle, and I can't believe they would join forces and not use their confidence to have a come-to-Jesus talk with him.