Wanna See A Woman Shot with Rubber Bullets Trying To Walk Home

Anti Federalist said:
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And I'm old enough to remember 2008 when Ron Paulians (just made that word up) were against government thuggery regardless of the excuse the thugs were usng. Also this is an escalation because the Posse Comitatus Act puts greater restrictions on the federal goverment using the National Guard than ti does governors. Every manufactured crises gives government a new excuse to further trample on civil liberties. All that matters is getting enough people to give their consent. It's kind of like how only one person has to invite vampires inside.



What was great about 9/11 for the NWO is that Democrats and Republicans simultaneously invited in the vampires. During COVID initially the invite was bipartisan but then it became only the Democrats. Now with the latest manufactured crisis it's just the Republicans. And by manufactured crisis, I don't mean that there isn't really a problem. Terrorism is real and people really did die on 9/11. But there were ways to prevent the attacks that didn't involve giving up civil liberties. COVID is real (yeah I know David Icke said it wasn't but I caught that shyt.) But lockdowns, forced masking and forced or "pressured" vaccination of an experimental vaccine that wasn't even tested to see if it would stop the spread wasn't necessary to deal with it. The border crisis is real, but these draconian measures of deporting people to foreign prisons without due process, sparking widespread protests, prompting a jack boot response isn't necessary to deal with it. Normalize relations with Venzueala and end the embargo. A lot of Venezuelans will go home on their own. Target the actual known criminals, give them due process, and put those convicted of a crime in prison, I don't care where. Have a robust guest worker program for everyone else where it is easy for them to come, do whatever work they are planning on doing, and go home. The more we've fought illegal immigration, the more immigration we've utlimately gotten. Sounds a lot like the war on drugs, war on poverty, etc.
 
Uncalled for by the cop.

Can't tell from the video why the woman was there, or what she was saying to the police.

Might have been a pepper ball? They were washing her with water, which is usually pepper spray or tear gas. I've heard pepper balls can hurt more than rubber bullets.
 
Brian4Liberty said:
Uncalled for by the cop.

Can't tell from the video why the woman was there, or what she was saying to the police.

Might have been a pepper ball? They were washing her with water, which is usually pepper spray or tear gas. I've heard pepper balls can hurt more than rubber bullets.
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Based on my high level expertise (read: 30 seconds of checking google images), it would seem its not a pepper ball or a rubber bullet. The shape and size of the launcher is consistent with a sponge bullet. (Which I guess, might be a type of rubber bullet, my expertise only goes so far)
 
jmdrake said:
The more we've fought illegal immigration, the more immigration we've ultimately gotten. Sounds a lot like the war on drugs, war on poverty, etc.
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The longest US war wasn't Afghanistan, it's the continuing unwinnable war on poverty. These are all wars of attrition that the US government is losing on all fronts, just as they will lose this war on illegal immigration (because there's a HUGE DEMAND for affordable low-skilled labor here). But it does provide the authoritarians with the excuses they need to instill fear in the populace, expand their powers, and use those powers to strip our individual liberties. You remember authoritarians, right? They're on the opposite vertex of the Nolan chart from where libertarians are

Does anyone here really believe the 12,383 miles of continental US border (including coastlines) could be impenetrably secured? Shit, they can't even keep contraband out of prisons, and those have solid walls completely enclosing them. Make sure you have your Real-ID handy when you leave the cell of your home. And make sure you have your traveling papers on you when you go to work or the store (remember permission slips that were needed in public schools). And certainly don't complain when you get pulled over for looking "suspicious", or when you get held up at a "routine checkpoint" stop. Say it, embrace it ... "here are my papers, officer".
 
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Brian4Liberty said:
Uncalled for by the cop.

Can't tell from the video why the woman was there, or what she was saying to the police.

Might have been a pepper ball? They were washing her with water, which is usually pepper spray or tear gas. I've heard pepper balls can hurt more than rubber bullets.
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I think she lived there & just wanted to go home
 
Voluntarist said:
The longest US war wasn't Afghanistan, it's the continuing unwinnable war on poverty. These are all wars of attrition that the US government is losing on all fronts, just as they will lose this war on illegal immigration (because there's a HUGE DEMAND for affordable low-skilled labor here). But it does provide the authoritarians with the excuses they need to instill fear in the populace, expand their powers, and use those powers to strip our individual liberties. You remember authoritarians, right? They're on the opposite vertex of the Nolan chart from where libertarians are

Does anyone here really believe the 12,383 miles of continental US border (including coastlines) could be impenetrably secured? Shit, they can't even keep contraband out of prisons, and those have solid walls completely enclosing them. Make sure you have your Real-ID handy when you leave the cell of your home. And make sure you have your traveling papers on you when you go to work or the store (remember permission slips that were needed in public schools). And certainly don't complain when you get pulled over for looking "suspicious", or when you get held up at a "routine checkpoint" stop. Say it, embrace it ... "here are my papers, officer".
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It was up until 1965.

Did we expand our territory in 1966?

And it did not require a heavy handed police state to do it.

We were much more free then, than we are now.
 
Anti Federalist said:
It was up until 1965.

Did we expand our territory in 1966?

And it did not require a heavy handed police state to do it.

We were much more free then, than we are now.
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I think ending birthright citizenship is the simplest, most permanent solution I've seen so far. And Ron Paul supports it.
 
Anti Federalist said:
It was up until 1965.
Did we expand our territory in 1966?
And it did not require a heavy handed police state to do it.
We were much more free then, than we are now.
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I'm not sure which thing you're referring to by "It"; but I'm assuming that it's a secure border. And if that's the case, then no, it wasn't any more secure back then than it is now. What's different is the demand for affordable low-skilled labor. Just one example: people in the sixties didn't hire landscaping/gardening services to mow their lawns (at least in anywhere near the numbers they do today). If they didn't mow their own lawns, they paid a "neighborhood kid" a couple of bucks to do it (with push mowers nonetheless). Fast forward to today; you've got grown men running lawn-mowing services - and they're hiring undocumented workers to do the actual work. I'm in a blue collar neighborhood, and hardly anyone mows their own lawn. I can remember during Trump's first term, there was an owner of a lawn mowing company that was interviewed on the radio saying he had plenty of openings for people to do the work but that nobody was applying.

You can say the same thing for most of the hard labor, dirty, hot, sweaty, smelly jobs that are out there. I can remember haying as a kid: being in the field as the sun was rising, tossing bales, and staying at it until after the sun had set. Harvesting melons: been there done that. You just showed up at the farmers you knew and asked if they needed help that day (just like the undocumented day laborers today do).

My grandfather was a butcher and did his own butchering from local stock. Who really does that anymore? It's all industrialized with hundreds of works stripping carcasses on an assembly line - and most of the people willing to do that nasty, repetitive work are undocumented laborers.

That's not an immigration problem - it's a problem with domestic culture. If you want fewer undocumented workers, then reduce the demand for them.

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And the companies hiring the undocumented would prefer to keep hiring them. They're motivated to hire them. Those workers are just a step above slaves. They can pay them less and work them harder and longer; all under intolerable working conditions. Why? Because the workers don't have the recourse of complaining to the governmental authorities that oversee requirements for documented workers: things like pay, age, working conditions, etc
 
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Cripes, I just looked out the front windows - there's two different "mowing" services out there as I write. Two separate pickup trucks towing long trailers packed with mowers, trimmers, blowers, etc. They pull up, the Caucasian owners drive the mowers off the trailer, and then the brown-skinned workers with Hispanic accents jump out of the long cab and do the work
 
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