Walk Out on Rumsfeld at CPAC!?!

[MelissaWV]

I don't understand why people are even considering staying through any part of Rumsfeld's speech and then walking out or booing or whatever else. Just don't go. Walk out after Rand, and go do something else. CPAC is not designed for a captive audience. People will probably "walk out" before Rand, too, because they're more interested in something else than hearing him speak.

 

[Vessol]

I don't understand why people are even considering staying through any part of Rumsfeld's speech and then walking out or booing or whatever else. Just don't go. Walk out after Rand, and go do something else. CPAC is not designed for a captive audience. People will probably "walk out" before Rand, too, because they're more interested in something else than hearing him speak.

If we could get a large part of the room to just politely stand up and file out without a word as soon as Rumsfeld is presented with the award, it'd be a powerful statement to the GOP.

 

[JoshLowry]

i was thinking more of a walk-out-when-Rumsfeld-is-announced type of thing, so as to show I wont support neocons

Rumsfield is right after Rand.

It should be a message that the media won't be able to jump down our throats for.

Leaving after Rand gives us plausible deniability.

 

[Original_Intent]

Although I would like something more blatant, I am coming around to Josh's PoV. The truth is, the idea is out there now, there will be some that leave right after Rand's event, there will likely be some that walk out in the middle of Rummy's award, and there will probably be booes, people turning their backs, etc. during the applause. I really hope anyone who does anything above walking out doesn't have anything to associate them with Ron or Rand. Hope.

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

If we could get a large part of the room to just politely stand up and file out without a word as soon as Rumsfeld is presented with the award, it'd be a powerful statement to the GOP.

Powerful statements aside, if Ron Paul gets wind of this, and again has to ask his supporters not to take part. How many will still be willing to be this "large" part of the room you are imagining?

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Leaving after Rand gives us plausible deniability.

^^^ That!

 

[S.Shorland]

I know that Rumsfeld met Saddam Hussein the same number of times George Galloway did.Twice.He used the opportunities to sell him gas and guns?That's basically all I know about him except he is the joint Arch Neocon together with Cheney.What did Rumsfeld actually do against the Constitution? and you'd better have an agreed line to give anyone who asks as to why you walked out.It does sound like a trap to me to be honest but if you walk out as soon as you've applauded Rand I think it's fair enough.If there are any APs there,make sure you have quick access to your phones to record it so they can be identified.

 

[JoshLowry]

I know that Rumsfeld met Saddam Hussein the same number of times George Galloway did.Twice.He used the opportunities to sell him gas and guns?That's basically all I know about him except he is the joint Arch Neocon together with Cheney.What did Rumsfeld actually do against the Constitution? and you'd better have an agreed line to give anyone who asks as to why you walked out.It does sound like a trap to me to be honest but if you walk out as soon as you've applauded Rand I think it's fair enough.If there are any APs there,make sure you have quick access to your phones to record it so they can be identified.

"Constitutional conservatives don't misplace 2.3 Trillion dollars under their administrations."

You make a good point though. We should come up with some one-liners in case anyone is interviewed. Will do a little digging... (Feel free to do your own.)

My quote above actually isn't fair because it puts all the blame on Rummy. 4th amendment/Patriot Act may be the best way to specifically target him.

 

[specsaregood]

What did Rumsfeld actually do against the Constitution? and you'd better have an agreed line to give anyone who asks as to why you walked out.It does sound like a trap to me to be honest but if you walk out as soon as you've applauded Rand I think it's fair enough..

And don't expect the "liberal" media to help you out, seeing as Obama has continued any policies Rumsfeld was associated with.

 

[trey4sports]

If we could get a large part of the room to just politely stand up and file out without a word as soon as Rumsfeld is presented with the award, it'd be a powerful statement to the GOP.

+1

 

[specsaregood]

If we could get a large part of the room to just politely stand up and file out without a word as soon as Rumsfeld is presented with the award, it'd be a powerful statement to the GOP.

And exactly what would that statement be?

 

[ammorris]

And exactly what would that statement be?

That we are immature and don't play well with others.

 

[sailingaway]

"Constitutional conservatives don't misplace 2.3 Trillion dollars under their administrations."

You make a good point though. We should come up with some one-liners in case anyone is interviewed. Will do a little digging... (Feel free to do your own.)

My quote above actually isn't fair because it puts all the blame on Rummy. 4th amendment/Patriot Act may be the best way to specifically target him.

Turn it around. What is their excuse for giving him the award? Whatever they credit him with is likely to have unConstitutional elements. Credit him for masterminding the invasion? Undeclared war....etc.

 

[mport1]

I think walking out is a great idea. Same applies for all the other statists who will be speaking.

 

[idirtify]

Originally Posted by specsaregood
And exactly what would that statement be?

That we are immature and don't play well with others.

I don’t think it’s immature to disagree with unjust wars and torture, do you?

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

Originally Posted by specsaregood
And exactly what would that statement be?



I don’t think it’s immature to disagree with unjust wars and torture, do you?

That is ridiculous question.

We are not talking about "disagreeing"

 

[specsaregood]

I don’t think it’s immature to disagree with unjust wars and torture, do you?

Yeah, that's exactly what we are all saying.

 

[Inkblots]

Here's a brief essay that was linked to on Reason's blog today. I feel it may be relevant to the current discussion.

Know who you are talking to and what they believe. Find out their emotional beltlines and stay above them.

Before speaking, ask: What are you trying to accomplish? How do you plan to do it? Will your plan promote your goals? Why or why not? Do not stand in the way of your own success.

If you flash because you enjoy the exhilaration, find other ways of getting kicks. When you do, you will be more emotionally satisfied and politically effective.

Become politically effective. This will eliminate the desire to prove that nothing can be done.

Devote your energies to finding more effective ways to bring others to the libertarian philosophy. There are too few persuasive libertarians, and becoming one is far nobler ambition than seeing how many hearts and minds you can close.​

http://www.mi.lp.org/Lists/SuccessNotebook/DispForm.aspx?ID=10

 

[Inflation]

Rummy, like Hickabee and Mitwit, is a Legacy Repubican.

When trying to organize and you take volunteers and agent provacateurs into the equation, you are left with an endless number of outcomes. So really, there is no organizing. It's hayekian chaos!

I'd like for us to take special note of anyone that does try and cause a truly provocative disturbance.

Take note of the black boots they are wearing.

That yellow thing just means the boots have Vibram soles. Most quality boots do.

The answer to hayekian chaos is spontaneous self-organization, resulting from the addition of (creative) energy.

There are two ways to find Rummy's CPAC godel statement:

1) Dress up as a Mit-wit or Hickabee supporter and clap really loud while shouting "Go Rummy, git them Jew hating heathen Moo-slims!" if (when) Rummy starts warmongering.

and/or

2) Start up with the "RON PAUL! RON PAUL! RON PAUL!" chant if (when) Rummy starts warmongering.

The MSM will be unable to resist such bait, they live for tales of conservative infighting. It's the narrative (GOP old fogies vs Tea Party insurgents) they want more than anything, so we simply provide them with a turnkey version, tailored especially to help R* Paul 2012.

 

[MRoCkEd]

Ugh, I will be embarrassed for the movement if people start shouting "Ron Paul."

 

[PreDeadMan]

Why not just walk out on Statism all together? Seems more rational to me.

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