Vote on the next moneybomb(s)!

Which date(s)?

  • July 4 Freedom Bomb

    Votes: 17 11.8%
  • July 19 Ready, Ames, Fire!

    Votes: 109 75.7%
  • July 29-31 3 Day MegaBomb

    Votes: 18 12.5%

  • Total voters
    144
Although, I don't see why July 19th is the best date for Ames, which will take place on August 13th...

Why not make it a week and a half before the poll? Instead of a random Tuesday almost 4 weeks before it.

I just think the moneybomb should be fresh in people's minds when they go to vote...
I think that the 7-19 date is good giving us 6+ weeks to rebuild, but I understand what you're saying about the timing with the theme. I thought the idea was to help fund the efforts with the money-- it can also raise awareness of the event to get more there. Still, based on what the campaign did yesterday they could put forth another anti-Romneycare or other theme. Doing a money bomb in early August may be an issue on timing however, since it will either be too soon after another one (in July) or a long time after June 6th- IMO.
 
July 4th, folks. The 19th is too late, and a moneybomb is only 24 hours (don't understand the supposed significance of July 29-31 anyway). I'm going to be working overtime in June, so I'm planning on having a hefty donation available on July 4th.
 
July 4th, folks. The 19th is too late, and a moneybomb is only 24 hours (don't understand the supposed significance of July 29-31 anyway). I'm going to be working overtime in June, so I'm planning on having a hefty donation available on July 4th.
How about using that for the end of quarter push here:
http://iowaforronpaul.com/projects.php

Holding back $1M or so for July 4th, just after the end of the quarter, will be a big loss, as I see it.

My $0.02. Again. :)
 
Ok, but I think there might be disagreement over this for sentimental reasons.

"Sentimental reasons" is a really bad excuse to use that date again. If you want to personally donate on that day, great. But to try and have a massive fundraising event for a major presidential candidate which the establishment hates on "Guy Fawkes Day" is simply reckless.
 
"Sentimental reasons" is a really bad excuse to use that date again. If you want to personally donate on that day, great. But to try and have a massive fundraising event for a major presidential candidate which the establishment hates on "Guy Fawkes Day" is simply reckless.

I hear you. It's not sentimental for me, because I learned of Ron Paul sometime between the two big bombs. It's just that, from what I've understood, the theme rallied a lot of people around a common cause. Many argue the importance of an enthusing theme.
 
I've been working to refine some principles for fundraising. For starters, I think there are two type of fund raising efforts that have value: single day money bombs and other "push" mini-drives that are a week or more. Both have a place in this campaign.

There are some obvious and much called-for pushes, such as the push for the FEC end of quarter deadlines. These drives are a must, others can be filled in too.

As we have seen, money bombs are still very important and can help raise big cash fast, however they must be timed properly.

Some people do not like money bombs and prefer to mini-drives, so this is why there is a need for both.

Money bombs should not be scheduled within about the first three weeks of a quarter. Why? Many will be arguing to "donate now" at the end of the quarter, and there will be good merit to that as the FEC numbers get pushed hard in the media as indicators of campaign strength.

Money bombs should also not be in the last few days of the quarter so if the bomb falls a little short of campaign goals for the quarter then those supporting the end-of-quarter push can take over and get us to the finish line.

Likewise, "push" mini-drives should end at least 7, 10 or 14 days before a money bomb so focus can shift, with a calm before the storm. So both techniques need to complement each other and not step on toes.

The second issue of money bombs is the interval. IMO, early in the campaign one every 6 weeks is a good timeframe. Later, once a month-- it will be hard to predict when that will happen, but it will for sure be no later than November.

The third issue on the money bombs is the themes. There are some obviously good dates that we did in 2007 that bear repeating, mainly:

November 11 -- For the Troops money bomb
December 16 -- Tea Party money bomb


One thing to keep in mind is that it is clear that the official campaign is going to use themes for the bombs, and with that, doing one on 11-5 will give them PR issues. Also, I do not think that a money bomb on Dr. Paul's birthday of August 20th is good for that reason as well, Dr. Paul is not a narcissist and the campaign would not want this, IMO. (How would their e-mail read? "Please donate on my birthday"?) As well, we need things with more emotional political appeal like the anti-Romneycare, or "No more bailouts". If we want to honor Dr. Paul we can do a money bomb on his and Carol's anniversary in 2012 like we did in 2008. I think he'd appreciate that more anyway and it is a very nice gesture to honor his family.

The July 4th bomb misses the mark by being too soon and just after the end of the quarter. People are on vacation with family too. It is also too close to the much better July 19th "Ready, Ames, Fire" money bomb.

The fourth issue is the day of the week for the money bomb. We're showing that Sundays can work, but I'd guess Saturday wouldn't be as good. Mondays have worked. Friday's might not be the best but both 11/11 and 12/16 are Fridays, but that still might not be enough to change them. Tu-Th are about the same. Considerations for day-after media impact are important too.

One final note, the campaign is going to have to anticipate how much money they are going to get, and spend appropriately. In other words, when they are spending for Ames in early July they should expect a good money bomb on the 19th and maybe spend as if they had 80% of what is projected.


So here is what I have:

June 7 - June 30 -- End of second quarter push (not a money bomb) This can focus to fund these http://iowaforronpaul.com/projects.php
July 19 -- Ready, Ames, Fire money bomb
Aug 30 (approx) -- money bomb ("No More Bailouts" theme suggested)
Sept 15 - Sept 30 -- End of third quarter push (not a money bomb)
mid Oct (11-17) -- money bomb (theme TBD)
November 11 -- For the Troops money bomb
December 16 -- Tea Party money bomb
Dec 17 - 31 - End of year push (not a money bomb)

There's flexibility in this, particularly with the money bombs between July 19th and November 11th. The principles are important however.

I like it Bryan....
 
I hear you. It's not sentimental for me, because I learned of Ron Paul sometime between the two big bombs. It's just that, from what I've understood, the theme rallied a lot of people around a common cause. Many argue the importance of an enthusing theme.

There were some people who got roused because of the theme. There were others who were very concerned about the theme. The media's reaction to the moneybomb confirmed our concerns. So why not have the rousing without the concern of being labeled terrorists? We should find a different theme.
 
Correct- the end of quarter push is not a money bomb, it's a "fill the quill" or bust the quarter fundraising goal thermometer type thing.

Yeah i agree with this. We need a cool graphic like I remember the radio tower graphic for radio adds. That was a cool one, seeing that thing made me want to get involved and donate! That was such a long time ago I remember it was set at only $400,000.

I think we need a graphic like that once each month or so as standard procedure.

On July 4th I think naturally there will be some money coming in and we shouldn't discourage it! But the date we set for the next bomb needs to be like a Monday! And let's raise 10 million!
 
I've been working to refine some principles for fundraising. For starters, I think there are two type of fund raising efforts that have value: single day money bombs and other "push" mini-drives that are a week or more. Both have a place in this campaign.

There are some obvious and much called-for pushes, such as the push for the FEC end of quarter deadlines. These drives are a must, others can be filled in too.

As we have seen, money bombs are still very important and can help raise big cash fast, however they must be timed properly.

Some people do not like money bombs and prefer to mini-drives, so this is why there is a need for both.

Money bombs should not be scheduled within about the first three weeks of a quarter. Why? Many will be arguing to "donate now" at the end of the quarter, and there will be good merit to that as the FEC numbers get pushed hard in the media as indicators of campaign strength.

Money bombs should also not be in the last few days of the quarter so if the bomb falls a little short of campaign goals for the quarter then those supporting the end-of-quarter push can take over and get us to the finish line.

Likewise, "push" mini-drives should end at least 7, 10 or 14 days before a money bomb so focus can shift, with a calm before the storm. So both techniques need to complement each other and not step on toes.

The second issue of money bombs is the interval. IMO, early in the campaign one every 6 weeks is a good timeframe. Later, once a month-- it will be hard to predict when that will happen, but it will for sure be no later than November.

The third issue on the money bombs is the themes. There are some obviously good dates that we did in 2007 that bear repeating, mainly:

November 11 -- For the Troops money bomb
December 16 -- Tea Party money bomb


One thing to keep in mind is that it is clear that the official campaign is going to use themes for the bombs, and with that, doing one on 11-5 will give them PR issues. Also, I do not think that a money bomb on Dr. Paul's birthday of August 20th is good for that reason as well, Dr. Paul is not a narcissist and the campaign would not want this, IMO. (How would their e-mail read? "Please donate on my birthday"?) As well, we need things with more emotional political appeal like the anti-Romneycare, or "No more bailouts". If we want to honor Dr. Paul we can do a money bomb on his and Carol's anniversary in 2012 like we did in 2008. I think he'd appreciate that more anyway and it is a very nice gesture to honor his family.

The July 4th bomb misses the mark by being too soon and just after the end of the quarter. People are on vacation with family too. It is also too close to the much better July 19th "Ready, Ames, Fire" money bomb.

The fourth issue is the day of the week for the money bomb. We're showing that Sundays can work, but I'd guess Saturday wouldn't be as good. Mondays have worked. Friday's might not be the best but both 11/11 and 12/16 are Fridays, but that still might not be enough to change them. Tu-Th are about the same. Considerations for day-after media impact are important too.

One final note, the campaign is going to have to anticipate how much money they are going to get, and spend appropriately. In other words, when they are spending for Ames in early July they should expect a good money bomb on the 19th and maybe spend as if they had 80% of what is projected.


So here is what I have:

June 7 - June 30 -- End of second quarter push (not a money bomb) This can focus to fund these http://iowaforronpaul.com/projects.php
July 19 -- Ready, Ames, Fire money bomb
Aug 30 (approx) -- money bomb ("No More Bailouts" theme suggested)
Sept 15 - Sept 30 -- End of third quarter push (not a money bomb)
mid Oct (11-17) -- money bomb (theme TBD)
November 11 -- For the Troops money bomb
December 16 -- Tea Party money bomb
Dec 17 - 31 - End of year push (not a money bomb)

There's flexibility in this, particularly with the money bombs between July 19th and November 11th. The principles are important however.

Great analysis Bryan. I agree with everything here. The Iowa projects page shouldn't be dedicated to a money bomb because money bombs should be reserved for pushing people to the main 2012 website which has a ticker. The ticker encourages donations and the Iowa projects page lacks a ticker, so it wouldn't be good for a money bomb, unless the campaign were to put one up that is. Then I'd be afraid about people not donating as much once all the projects have been filled up. Directing people to the central website avoids that potential problem. I'd go with focusing on the Iowa projects page for the end of the quarter push. July 19th is great date because the campaign has almost a month to utilize the money before the August 13th straw poll. I'd prefer a little more time, but I think it might be a mistake to switch the date when July 19th has been advertised for so long and it's fresh in people's minds. The poll also seems to highly confirm people want July 19th to be the next date. How do we get Trevor on board with this so he can remove the July 4th money bomb?
 
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The three day idea is WAY too late for the campaign to have enough time to organize for the Ames straw poll. Where did this idea even come from? A moneybomb is supposed to be 24 hours, even the Wikipedia entry says that.

What are you talking about? By July 19th the Iowa Projects would've most likely already been fully funded for....by July 29th the Iowa Projects would've definitely already been funded for...

It's only June 6th right now

But it seems like the next money bomb date has already been decided, July 19th, a terrible date choice and plan IMO because by August 13th, the day of the Ames straw poll, all the energy from the July 19th money bomb would've already faded away, but oh well

If we've already decided on the uexciting just another one-day money bomb for July 19th we'll need to find something really big, enormous, and overwhelming near to the August 13th date, regardless of it it's a money bomb event or something else
 
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Ok so have we at least decided that July 4th is out?
Ready, Ames, Fire! Is the next money bomb!
I do think the end of quarter push should be for the Iowa projects page.

We can decide the rest in time.
We need to find a way to coordinate with the DP folks and Trevor so that we don't have a miss fire on July 4th. The MSM would rip us apart if we had a moneybomb smaller then the last. So we need to make Ready, Ames, Fire! HUGE and make it the focus. Start making the videos, advertising on Facebook, put a link in your signature. Lets do this!
And lets get the Iowa projects funded by the end of the quarter!
 
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