Vote on the next moneybomb(s)!

[tpreitzel]

I just think it's better to keep it at the beginning of the month because people have just gotten paid and have money. I'm trying to dump $100/mo. but the later the money bomb is in the month the more tempted I can be to spend it elsewhere.

Yes ...

 

[Gage]

I just think it's better to keep it at the beginning of the month because people have just gotten paid and have money. I'm trying to dump $100/mo. but the later the money bomb is in the month the more tempted I can be to spend it elsewhere.

That didn't seem to stop people on December 16, but I understand your point.

 

[anaconda]

Remember, the official campaign did end-of-quarter pushes for the second and third quarter of '07 ("fill the quill", etc) -- so in that way we'll be doing what they will likely do anyway. Having a money bomb right after that is a problem however so we need to work around the likely end of quarter pushes.

Perhaps you would prefer the last day of each month?

 

[Gage]

Perhaps you would prefer the last day of each month?

There needs to be a reason for people to donate, whether it be a historical event, or based around some other type of event. Simply donating at the end of the month should be something people decide to do on their own, not organized around moneybombs.

 

[Bryan]

I just think it's better to keep it at the beginning of the month because people have just gotten paid and have money. I'm trying to dump $100/mo. but the later the money bomb is in the month the more tempted I can be to spend it elsewhere.

The problem with the beginning of the month is that one in three will be right after the FEC filing deadline, and many will be saying to "donate now"-- and there will be strong merit to that.

Also, I don't think we're ready for once a month until October. Six weeks seems much better, IMO.

Thanks!! Hope you're doing well Doctor!!

 

[Bryan]

Perhaps you would prefer the last day of each month?

Well, not me, but likely the campaign.

 

[anaconda]

That didn't seem to stop people on December 16, but I understand your point.

That was different. We didn't want to get tangled up with Christmas. Plus the Boston Tea Party concept. Plus people were on fire after Nov. 5th, we were just a few weeks from Iowa, and people were stoked to do it again and break the record. Especially since Ron had been given less than no respect before Nov. 5th.

 

[Bryan]

There needs to be a reason for people to donate, whether it be a historical event, or based around some other type of event. Simply donating at the end of the month should be something people decide to do on their own, not organized around moneybombs.

I agree-- and the "end of quarter" pushes are good for the not-deciding-on-your-own.

 

[realtonygoodwin]

That didn't seem to stop people on December 16, but I understand your point.

If payday is the 15th, that does make some sense.

 

[afwjam]

This is my revised schedule idea taking Bryan's end of quarter pushes into account.

How about:

June 6 - June 30 -- End of second quarter push
Ready, Ames, Fire! July 19th
Ron Paul Birthday bomb August 20th
Constitution day bomb Sep 17-30 end of quarter push
mid Oct (11-17) -- money bomb (theme TBD)
Nov 11th Support Troops and Veterans.(Ron paul is the only veteran.)
Tea party bomb Dec 16th

We should talk about this in the fundraising forum.

 

[xRedfoxx]

Nov 5th for me

I like donating as much as possible as soon as possible. That def. gets the momentum going. But for me personally, I won't be donating until the Nov 5th moneybomb.....when we will set a new 1 day record.

I feel like we're diluting the moneybomb concept.

Ron Paul 2012!!

Get a sticker on your car today!!

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I agree with this.

Good schedule. +1

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I think it's the right idea. But I would rather see them at regular intervals (like the 15th of every month, or whatever). Still, I would rather defer to the official campaign. I know it's sort of anti-libertarian, but I think we could do a lot of good and also solve some problems by simply asking the campaign to make us a list of donation days. I would much prefer to do what they want. Who knows? Maybe they would say they prefer that we make our own calendar. But I doubt it.

I don't think it's anti-libertarian at all. There is certainly a place for organization and unity in a libertarian campaign. Campaigns don't necessarily have to follow a libertarian ideology because it doesn't apply. Libertarian ideologies only apply to government, IMO. Beside, if libertarian=no central planning, think what a bad light that would cause on libertarian ideas, considering most people would equate libertarian with chaos and divisiveness. As shown by this board, there is nothing wrong with unity (There are limits placed on this at capitol hill).

Also, I would like to suggest people hold off on suggesting dates for after the new year. That's way too far off to be planning right now.

I voted for Ready, Ames, Fire!

 

[civusamericanus]

Originally Posted by Bryan
I think the 19th is fine. The campaign is going to have to anticipate the donations some and plan accordingly-- in other words, plan to spend money you don't yet have. It's key to build momentum, and one week won't change anything. Again, I agree 7-4 is terrible.

I agree with that as well. They've already got funds from these past two moneybombs, as well as whatever else they've raised, so the July 19 date would just be even more icing on the cake.

I agree with both of you. Although, we might want to consider a Multi-day moneybomb starting July 15-19, this could include pledges gained through a phonebank. I really believe we need to have a Phonebank fundraising effort in the works within a week, that could be ready and deployed July 15-19th, if we want to win Ames!

One last observation, obviously, we're linking people back to http://iowaforronpaul.com/projects.php for donations, but I don't see anything about funding for the buses. Is there a funding project for buses or is this somehow included in the projects?

 

[Bryan]

I've been working to refine some principles for fundraising. For starters, I think there are two type of fund raising efforts that have value: single day money bombs and other "push" mini-drives that are a week or more. Both have a place in this campaign.

There are some obvious and much called-for pushes, such as the push for the FEC end of quarter deadlines. These drives are a must, others can be filled in too.

As we have seen, money bombs are still very important and can help raise big cash fast, however they must be timed properly.

Some people do not like money bombs and prefer to mini-drives, so this is why there is a need for both.

Money bombs should not be scheduled within about the first three weeks of a quarter. Why? Many will be arguing to "donate now" at the end of the quarter, and there will be good merit to that as the FEC numbers get pushed hard in the media as indicators of campaign strength.

Money bombs should also not be in the last few days of the quarter so if the bomb falls a little short of campaign goals for the quarter then those supporting the end-of-quarter push can take over and get us to the finish line.

Likewise, "push" mini-drives should end at least 7, 10 or 14 days before a money bomb so focus can shift, with a calm before the storm. So both techniques need to complement each other and not step on toes.

The second issue of money bombs is the interval. IMO, early in the campaign one every 6 weeks is a good timeframe. Later, once a month-- it will be hard to predict when that will happen, but it will for sure be no later than November.

The third issue on the money bombs is the themes. There are some obviously good dates that we did in 2007 that bear repeating, mainly:

November 11 -- For the Troops money bomb
December 16 -- Tea Party money bomb


One thing to keep in mind is that it is clear that the official campaign is going to use themes for the bombs, and with that, doing one on 11-5 will give them PR issues. Also, I do not think that a money bomb on Dr. Paul's birthday of August 20th is good for that reason as well, Dr. Paul is not a narcissist and the campaign would not want this, IMO. (How would their e-mail read? "Please donate on my birthday"?) As well, we need things with more emotional political appeal like the anti-Romneycare, or "No more bailouts". If we want to honor Dr. Paul we can do a money bomb on his and Carol's anniversary in 2012 like we did in 2008. I think he'd appreciate that more anyway and it is a very nice gesture to honor his family.

The July 4th bomb misses the mark by being too soon and just after the end of the quarter. People are on vacation with family too. It is also too close to the much better July 19th "Ready, Ames, Fire" money bomb.

The fourth issue is the day of the week for the money bomb. We're showing that Sundays can work, but I'd guess Saturday wouldn't be as good. Mondays have worked. Friday's might not be the best but both 11/11 and 12/16 are Fridays, but that still might not be enough to change them. Tu-Th are about the same. Considerations for day-after media impact are important too.

One final note, the campaign is going to have to anticipate how much money they are going to get, and spend appropriately. In other words, when they are spending for Ames in early July they should expect a good money bomb on the 19th and maybe spend as if they had 80% of what is projected.


So here is what I have:

June 7 - June 30 -- End of second quarter push (not a money bomb) This can focus to fund these http://iowaforronpaul.com/projects.php
July 19 -- Ready, Ames, Fire money bomb
Aug 30 (approx) -- money bomb ("No More Bailouts" theme suggested)
Sept 15 - Sept 30 -- End of third quarter push (not a money bomb)
mid Oct (11-17) -- money bomb (theme TBD)
November 11 -- For the Troops money bomb
December 16 -- Tea Party money bomb
Dec 17 - 31 - End of year push (not a money bomb)

There's flexibility in this, particularly with the money bombs between July 19th and November 11th. The principles are important however.

 

[jaktober]

Ready Ames Fire needs to "Aim" at the Projects Page

The next fund raising/Money Bomb needs to focus on maxing out the Iowa Projects Page;

http://iowaforronpaul.com/projects.php

How about July 13th (1 month before the Straw Poll). 7/13, both lucky numbers (RP says 13 is his lucky number, he announced on the 13th of May, straw poll is on August 13th).

 

[Bryan]

The next fund raising/Money Bomb needs to focus on maxing out the Iowa Projects Page;

http://iowaforronpaul.com/projects.php

I think that's a good idea, I just edited my post to add a few things, including having the end of quarter drive to fund those Iowa projects. That should be our focus for now, IMO.

 

[RileyE104]

I believe that July 19th for Ames is the way to go.

While I have faith that the revolution could pull off another million dollar day so soon on July 4th, I don't think that's a risk we should take again.

I also support the end-of-quarter push for the last three weeks of this month.

 

[IndianaPolitico]

"Ready,Ames,Fire!" is the one I voted for. It is already being organized, and it is far enough away that we can promote it heavily.

 

[Bryan]

I believe that July 19th for Ames is the way to go.

While I have faith that the revolution could pull off another million dollar day so soon on July 4th, I don't think that's a risk we should take again.

I also support the end-of-quarter push for the last three weeks of this month.

Exactly, with the end of quarter push to fund these:
http://iowaforronpaul.com/projects.php