Virginia Ron Paul delegates blocked by corrupt committee chairman

[Phyxrgon]

i would tell him he is a disgusting foul mouthed pig + that he should be locked up + kicked out of gop, a disgrace to all virginians... coming from one who was born in virginia beach and lives out of state now.

 

[kathy88]

Does this need to hit Twitter or should we wait and see what happens?

 

[Keith and stuff]

But Keith, the only reason someone like Ron Paul can do well in NH is because it is so small and they have so much time in which to campaign there.

Potentially. Ron Paul certainly wasn't the most frequent campaigner in NH though. Buddy, Huntsman and Romney all spent a lot more time in NH. Paul, Huntsman and Romney all did well due to their moderate ideas and ability to connect with the voters. Voters figured out Buddy was a kook. I'm not really debating this one way or another and I don't think it is related to the point I made.

If things went your proposed direction and more states went to primaries, it would be that much more impossible for a non-establishment, non-super-rich candidate to have any chance of competing. If the nominee were decided via one big (transparent!) nationwide primary all held on the same day, would that help or hurt a Ron Paul? I think it clearly would hurt.

I don't know what the difference between impossible and much more impossible is. I'm not only looking for pro-liberty people to win. I'm also looking for other things like ease of use and transparency. I nationwide primary would defeat the whole purpose of spread out primaries, IMO. I like the idea of candidates being vetting by the people.

No, I think things should go the opposite direction: more convoluted processes, more hours upon hours of sitting through meetings required in order to vote. More caucuses, fewer primaries. We have the committed cadre so we can compete in caucuses.

That's certainly not a process I want to be a part of it. Heck, I would never encourage anyone to be a part of it unless I was getting paid to encourage them to...

 

[helmuth_hubener]

I don't know what the difference between impossible and much more impossible is.

LOL, very good point!

That's certainly not a process I want to be a part of it. Heck, I would never encourage anyone to be a part of it unless I was getting paid to encourage them to...

Ha, ha, nope, I'm not getting paid. And certainly it's not a lot of fun to be a part of time-wasting meetings. But what about time-wasting stuff that goes with primaries, like canvassing?

I'm just looking at things dispassionately and asking "what system plays to our strengths?" The answer is clear: caucuses. We might only have a million people, but we are a zealous, committed million -- we can get all million to sit through caucus meetings and win it all! Because having pro-liberty people and measures win *is* *my* only priority. Liberty: my only political priority. That's it. That's all I want. Very simple.

I'm not only looking for pro-liberty people to win.

 

[Bohner]

Please guys, no Ben Swann, and no twitter bombs on this one.

Video/Audio recordings and charts are one thing... But this is a typical "he said she said" predicament. Making a big deal over hearsay accusations is not going to do the Paul campaign any favors.

Pick your battles guys.

 

[orenbus]

RT

https://twitter.com/#!/TheLoneCoyote/status/190659943173591040

 

[VAMole]

I might look into getting the 3rd CD delegates disqualified at the state convention. If they want to play it this way, it's going to be long, drawn-out, and as ugly as it needs to be.

Remember that Units elect delegates to District and State conventions - according to Chris Stearns, the delegates to state are fine, it was simply the delegates to the district convention that were not elected.

 

[VAMole]

Please guys, no Ben Swann, and no twitter bombs on this one.

Video/Audio recordings and charts are one thing... But this is a typical "he said she said" predicament. Making a big deal over hearsay accusations is not going to do the Paul campaign any favors.

Pick your battles guys.

Dude, Chris Stearns is the state campaign coordinator. Also, the convention that our people were disqualified to attend is the only convention in the state that is electing delegates bound to Dr. Paul. We'll pick this battle, thanks.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Ha, ha, nope, I'm not getting paid. And certainly it's not a lot of fun to be a part of time-wasting meetings. But what about time-wasting stuff that goes with primaries, like canvassing?

I wasn't suggesting you were getting paid

I don't consider canvassing or calling people to be time wasting. To me, it is slowing changing hearts and minds.

 

[devil21]

If the story is true, and I wouldn't doubt it is, then every last illegally disqualified Paul delegate needs to show up at the convention and make a stink. Make allies with other delegates at the convention and have them motion (and second), then have a vote (and call for division...standing vote) under Robert's Rules to have your delegates certified. Put the chairman on the spot and make him accountable for his bullshit in front of the entire convention!

There's a video floating around here somewhere of a similar situation that arose at another county convention where Paul delegates were disqualified by the credentials committee over alleged registration issues and they were then voted onto the delegate roster by motion, second and division vote. Was it Minnesota? I can't remember. Ill try to find it. If anyone has it handy please post it up. Beat the cheating bastard with the Rules.

Here it is. Oklahoma County.

 

[J_White]

this guy wants to punch Paul ? he hasnt seen this video ?



pathetic response from a typical necon establishment hack !

 

[ClydeCoulter]

If the story is true, and I wouldn't doubt it is, then every last illegally disqualified Paul delegate needs to show up at the convention and make a stink. Make allies with other delegates at the convention and have them motion (and second), then have a vote (and call for division...standing vote) under Robert's Rules to have your delegates certified. Put the chairman on the spot and make him accountable for his bullshit in front of the entire convention!

There's a video floating around here somewhere of a similar situation that arose at another county convention where Paul delegates were disqualified by the credentials committee over alleged registration issues and they were then voted onto the delegate roster by motion, second and division vote. Was it Minnesota? I can't remember. Ill try to find it. If anyone has it handy please post it up. Beat the cheating bastard with the Rules.

Here it is. Oklahoma County.

^^^ THIS ^^^^ Hang in there

 

[devil21]

If someone has a direct connection to the person in the OP's conversation, please forward him the information in my post! They can still win. DON'T GIVE UP!

 

[G-Wohl]

Ah, a former lobbyist, this Chris M. Woodfin is. http://www.vpap.org/lobbyists/lobbyist_details/93571?lobbying_client_id=146028&period=2008-2009

 

[kathy88]

Anything else on this today?

 

[EndTheFed]

Ya know....

Ron Paul should call a press conference (in the near future at the right time) and say because the corruption in the GOP and the
media bias and the likes of Mark Levin... I have decided to run 3rd party.

At that conference have a list of the examples of all this and web address of a new web site that chronicles all of this crap..

An I am not really a 3rd party run fan but this is crap...

 

[devil21]

bump

Was anybody able to get a hold of the coordinator in the OP and pass on the information how to beat the cheater?

 

[Blue]

I bet Ron would duck this foul mouthed neo-con's punch and then deliver an uppercut of liberty right to his chin.

 

[kathy88]

What kind of person threatens to punch a septegenarian in the face? I wish this would go viral. He needs to resign in disgrace.

 

[wgadget]

What kind of person threatens to punch a septegenarian in the face? I wish this would go viral. He needs to resign in disgrace.

A septuagenarian sitting US Congressman, no less.

Despicable.