[VIDEO] ~ Was this cop justified in punching this girl in the face?

[Travlyr]

Agreed... but it does work both ways.

Happens just like this too.

Also this version of the video is much better... shows more of what happened.
YouTube - Seattle Police Confrontation - komonews.com

Yeah. After watching this version, the cop should have called for the swat team back-up to help keep the peace. These jaywalkers are dangerous to society.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Voted no. There should be a "hell, no" option.

If this cop feels justified punching a LITTLE GIRL like that for a gentle shove, I'd hate to think what he might do to ME (a 6'8", 320 pound guy) for jaywalking.

Of course, knowing how people drive (at least in my town) I don't DO that (jaywalk).

Come to think of it, I don't really walk at all. Maybe that's why I'm 320.

Dude why are you not in the NFL?

 

[surf]

according to the dick analyst on headline news if you touch a cop it's assault.... that's pretty fucking pathetic imo. he also thought the officer showed a lot of patience.

where i come from, hitting gals is about as bad an act as any dude can commit. i don't care if the lady hits you over the head with a frying pan - you don't stike back - you take the pan away.

Seattle, as i'm sure has been previously mentioned, is notorious for issuing jaywalking tickets. i had a friend in from Chicago that was stopped by a cop for this and his reaction was, "are you serious?"

obviously i voted "no" both for gender reasons listed above and the obvious answer that other methods of "subduing" this "criminal" were available

 

[John Taylor]

Yeah. After watching this version, the cop should have called for the swat team back-up to help keep the peace. These jaywalkers are dangerous to society.

Jaywalkers are dangerous to society, they (in the absence of anti-jaywalking laws) create civil liability for drivers operating vehicles on roadways.

Based on this police officer's physical capacity, perhaps he needed a swat team!

 

[John Taylor]

according to the dick analyst on headline news if you touch a cop it's assault.... that's pretty fucking pathetic imo. he also thought the officer showed a lot of patience.

where i come from, hitting gals is about as bad an act as any dude can commit. i don't care if the lady hits you over the head with a frying pan - you don't stike back - you take the pan away.

Seattle, as i'm sure has been previously mentioned, is notorious for issuing jaywalking tickets. i had a friend in from Chicago that was stopped by a cop for this and his reaction was, "are you serious?"

obviously i voted "no" both for gender reasons listed above and the obvious answer that other methods of "subduing" this "criminal" were available

If a LADY strikes you, no, you don't strike her back, but when someone strikes a police officer, that is generally unacceptable behavior, and, constitutionally, the police officers have to treat each person equally under the law, using the same level of force regardless of the presence or lack of an appendage. This female is a woman, not a lady. Let's get the definitions correct.

Jaywalking is illegal for a reason.

Other ways of subduing this woman? Like using a taser? This woman is as tall and perhaps weighs more than the little police officer.

 

[Travlyr]

If a LADY strikes you, no, you don't strike her back, but when someone strikes a police officer, that is generally unacceptable behavior, and, constitutionally, the police officers have to treat each person equally under the law, using the same level of force regardless of the presence or lack of an appendage. This female is a woman, not a lady. Let's get the definitions correct.

Jaywalking is illegal for a reason.

Other ways of subduing this woman? Like using a taser? This woman is as tall and perhaps weighs more than the little police officer.

Yeah... He should have tazered her or shot her, or at least beat her with his nightclub. Jaywalking is a crime!

 

[jsu718]

Apparently they forgot Chris Rock's simple tips for not getting your ass beat by the police.
YouTube - Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police!

 

[HRD53]

according to the dick analyst on headline news if you touch a cop it's assault.... that's pretty fucking pathetic imo. he also thought the officer showed a lot of patience.

where i come from, hitting gals is about as bad an act as any dude can commit. i don't care if the lady hits you over the head with a frying pan - you don't stike back - you take the pan away.

Seattle, as i'm sure has been previously mentioned, is notorious for issuing jaywalking tickets. i had a friend in from Chicago that was stopped by a cop for this and his reaction was, "are you serious?"

obviously i voted "no" both for gender reasons listed above and the obvious answer that other methods of "subduing" this "criminal" were available

If somebody hits me with a frying pan, i'm punching them in the fucking face... I don't care if they have a vagina or not.

 

[Agorism]

I think I'd rather get punched than tasered. At least that way the cop has to exert himself a little bit.

 

[stone]

they both deserved it

the girls are obviously a few a$$ kickins short of knowing how to act like females.
The cop probably roughed someone up unecessarily in the past month, so he deserved what she gave him too. He looked like a lame a$$ wuss and I think she told him he was weak near the end, which had me laughing.

By the way, I do admire greatly how the community gathered around there and filmed the proceedings. That is the smart thing to do, and is actually what Shaefer Cox and his group are doing in Alaska.

 

[Natalie]

I voted for yes. It looks like she put her hands on him first. I'm not a fan of cops either, but if you act civil, they most likely will not give you any problems.

 

[AutoDas]

Don't put words in my mouth. People of all races can be racist and most people (thankfully) are not.

Here we have a white cop who goes to MLK boulevard which is probably the black part of town and starts handing out jaywalking tickets. Racially motivated? Maybe, maybe not.

But put it this way. I have black friends and white friends. Both groups jaywalk, blacks seem to get far more tickets for this bullshit "crime" than whites. It does not mean that they are all racially motivated, but clearly some of them are. The numbers are too disproportionate for it to be a coincidence.

Yeah, the jaywalkers in this video were racially motivated. Look at how ignorant they act when second one put her hands on the officer. The officer used just enough force to push her away. Thank god for video cameras otherwise this would be headlined, "Black 19 year old high schooler gets punched in the face by white cop for jaywalking confirmed by 10 witnesses." He was issuing tickets for jaywalking because the local high school down the street called for cops to discourage this reckless behavior and to encourage use of the sky bridge 20 feet away. I don't care how injustice the arrest, you do not interfere in an arrest but maybe MLK means nothing to these thugs.

Is BlackTerrel's post racially motivated? Maybe.

Anecdotal evidence aside, I didn't see any white kids in the video so have you considered blacks get more tickets because they jaywalk more proportionality to other races and you only notice this because you have a victim outlook on life?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Anecdotal evidence aside, I didn't see any white kids in the video so have you considered blacks get more tickets because they jaywalk more proportionality to other races and you only notice this because you have a victim outlook on life?

If memory serves, I believe there are three girls, two black, one white. The white girl played a minor role in the video, so she wasn't as obvious. Maybe she can get top billing next time...

 

[BlackTerrel]

Yeah, the jaywalkers in this video were racially motivated. Look at how ignorant they act when second one put her hands on the officer. The officer used just enough force to push her away. Thank god for video cameras otherwise this would be headlined, "Black 19 year old high schooler gets punched in the face by white cop for jaywalking confirmed by 10 witnesses." He was issuing tickets for jaywalking because the local high school down the street called for cops to discourage this reckless behavior and to encourage use of the sky bridge 20 feet away. I don't care how injustice the arrest, you do not interfere in an arrest but maybe MLK means nothing to these thugs.

If you don't think there are cops out there who specifically target black people you are woefully naive. Consider yourself lucky you don't have to deal with it.

Anecdotal evidence aside, I didn't see any white kids in the video so have you considered blacks get more tickets because they jaywalk more proportionality to other races and you only notice this because you have a victim outlook on life?

1. Black people are genetically prone to jaywalk

2. Black culture supports jaywalking. It's what we talk about at Church.

Neither of these are bloody likely. I have plenty of white friends, black friends, and Asian friends. The black people tend to be far more targeted than the white or Asian ones - that is a fact.

Most police are probably not racist. But some are. That's a fact.

 

[mport1]

50/50??!! This thug is harassing and then beating up a girl for jaywalking!

 

[aji]

ASSAULT, crim. law. An assault is any unlawful attempt or offer with force or violence to do a corporal hurt to another, whether from malice or wantonness; for example, by striking at him or even holding up the fist at him in a threatening or insulting manner, or with other circumstances as denote at the time. an intention, coupled with a present ability, of actual violence against his person,

The police officer was not only justified in his use of force in defending himself, but also using further force to subdue and arrest his attacker for assault.

 

[AutoDas]

If you don't think there are cops out there who specifically target black people you are woefully naive. Consider yourself lucky you don't have to deal with it.

Don't put words in my mouth. Do non-white cops target your white friends or are the non-white cops angels?

1. Black people are genetically prone to jaywalk

2. Black culture supports jaywalking. It's what we talk about at Church.

Neither of these are bloody likely. I have plenty of white friends, black friends, and Asian friends. The black people tend to be far more targeted than the white or Asian ones - that is a fact.

Most police are probably not racist. But some are. That's a fact.

Why would a group of people that dress and support a culture of thug life that hate cops and have disrespect for the law get targeted by cops?

Each one has no respect for property.

 

[live liberty]

50/50??!! This thug is harassing and then beating up a girl for jaywalking!

Yes, the sad reality is that fully 50% of the people on rpf want the police to arrest jaywakers and if they resist then take a beating and get further charges of resisting arrest and assault on a police officer. It's sad but true. They have been conditioned to believe that they have to obey the police, no matter what, because it's the law even tho everybody jaywalks sometimes.

 

[MelissaWV]

Yes, the sad reality is that fully 50% of the people on rpf want the police to arrest jaywakers and if they resist then take a beating and get further charges of resisting arrest and assault on a police officer. It's sad but true. They have been conditioned to believe that they have to obey the police, no matter what, because it's the law even tho everybody jaywalks sometimes.

You're speaking for the 50%, and you're in error. The question has nothing to do with whether it should be lawful to arrest someone for jaywalking. The question is about the punch, which was not a part of the jaywalking ticket. The punch was a direct result of the officer being shoved. That's how it was presented in the initial video.

The subsequent video and accounts show that it's very likely the cop was already being violent towards dark-shirted girl, which would merit the shoving response by her or her pink-shirted friend. That's still a bit wobbly, though.

You don't have to "obey the police, no matter what," but neither does the uniform give you an excuse to shove them and cry victim when they shove or punch or slap you back. And yes, a lot of people jaywalk, and a lot of people take their tickets and contest them, or simply don't pay them. If people were really super smart, and these cops have a history of this crap in that neighborhood, they'd set up cameras and have people of different nationalities jaywalk, and see what happens.

Is it your contention this what's shown in the video is really the smartest course of action?

 

[MelissaWV]

according to the dick analyst on headline news if you touch a cop it's assault.... that's pretty fucking pathetic imo. he also thought the officer showed a lot of patience.

where i come from, hitting gals is about as bad an act as any dude can commit. i don't care if the lady hits you over the head with a frying pan - you don't stike back - you take the pan away.

Seattle, as i'm sure has been previously mentioned, is notorious for issuing jaywalking tickets. i had a friend in from Chicago that was stopped by a cop for this and his reaction was, "are you serious?"

obviously i voted "no" both for gender reasons listed above and the obvious answer that other methods of "subduing" this "criminal" were available

Says someone who's never been hit by a frying pan. Seriously, regardless of gender, assault isn't okay. You are assuming you can "take the pan away." In all your gentlemanly glory, what you are saying is "women are weaker."