Gary Johnson Video: "The Vote For Freedom Is Never Wasted"

[TheTexan]

I don't know where this whole meme of "Gary Johnson is inauthentic" came from

It comes from the fact he uses the words "unsustainable debt" and "economic deathwish" but has no fucking clue what the problem is with the Fed

 

[V3n]

You talkin' about Gary Johnson, or RAND PAUL?

cheapseats campaign strategy 101: When you can't say anything good about Gary Johnson, attack Rand Paul.

 

[cheapseats]

It comes from the fact he uses the words "unsustainable debt" and "economic deathwish" but has no fucking clue what the problem is with the Fed

"No fucking clue"??

What a pity for the very successful former governor of New Mexico that he hasn't your intellekshewal wherewithal.

 

[cheapseats]

cheapseats campaign strategy 101: When you can't say anything good about Gary Johnson, attack Rand Paul.

GOP APOLOGIST CAMPAIGNING 101: When you can't say anything good about "Republican Party Unifier" Mitt Romney, attack Gary Johnson.

YouTube, Feb. 23, 2012: Gary Johnson: NO Ron Paul / Mitt Romney ALLIANCE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sbrpDs579o

 

[Krzysztof Lesiak]

This year we must write-in Ron Paul, unless GJ starts showing that he really believes in ending the Fed, non-interventionsim etc. It's hard to believe him when he comes out in favor of waging "humanitarian" wars.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/thedcs-jamie-weinstein-gary-johnsons-strange-foreign-policy/

 

[cheapseats]

This year we must write-in Ron Paul, unless GJ starts showing that he really believes in ending the Fed, non-interventionsim etc. It's hard to believe him when he comes out in favor of waging "humanitarian" wars.

Happily, Gary Johnson IS constrained by fiscal realities. Not so, the object of Rand Paul's endorsement: MITT ROMNEY.

"Republican Party Unifier" Mitt Romney unabashedly favors WAR OF AGGRESSION with Iran, and maybe some others.

 

[Travlyr]

"No fucking clue"??

What a pity for the very successful former governor of New Mexico that he hasn't your intellekshewal wherewithal.

Yes, the libertarian who was successful at building prisons and corporatizing prisons. Talk about oxymorons. That one has to 'take the cake'.

Give me a liberty president who thinks we need more prisons and give the ones we already have to the corporations. Sheesh. Let's throw all the criminals behind bars. It will be good for the economy. Honest Abe was a good president. No, mass murdering Abe Lincoln was a GREAT president.

 

[V3n]

GOP APOLOGIST CAMPAIGNING 101: When you can't say anything good about "Republican Party Unifier" Mitt Romney, attack Gary Johnson.

I have never attacked Gary Johnson, I have said he'd be a better option than Romney or Obama, and I have said that we should find a way to promote Gary Johnson that does not bash Ron or Rand Paul. You have repeatedly demonstrated you are unable to do the latter.

Bashing Rand Paul is a fine tactic for creating division and derailing threads (like this one - which is supposed to be about a Gary Johnson video); but I don't think it does anything to win the hearts and minds of the electorate for your guy.

 

[cheapseats]

I have never attacked Gary Johnson,

You HAVE, however, attacked me.

I have said he'd be a better option than Romney or Obama...

Gary Johnson IS a better option than Romney or Obama.

...and I have said that we should find a way to promote Gary Johnson that does not bash Ron or Rand Paul. You have repeatedly demonstrated you are unable to do the latter.

You asked me WHY I bash Rand Paul, and I answered. Re-MEM-ber?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?381079-The-case-for-voting-for-Gary-Johnson./page4

Are you able to promote Gary Johnson without bashing Rand Paul? I mean, is it even possible?
Because you don't seem able to do that.
If Gary Johnson is such a great Liberty Candidate, why aren't you able to speak on his merits, without trying to destroy others?

Sure, it's possible.

But "simply" promoting Gary Johnson AS A VIABLE PLAN B IF RON PAUL IS NOT ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT gets me a ration of shit about traitorousness, 'cuz board namesake Ron Paul's hat is still in the ring.

Which brings me to RAND.

Well, thanks for the honest answer.

The bashing of Gary Johnson continues, and yet you object only to my continued association of Gary Johnson bashing with RAND and his endorsement of Ron Paul's rival Mitt Romney. That there is whatcha call DISCRIMINATION.

Bashing Rand Paul is a fine tactic for creating division and derailing threads ... but I don't think it does anything to win the hearts and minds of the electorate for your guy.

Endorsing and campaigning for Mitt Romney is a fine tactic for creating division, but I don't think it does ANYTHING to win the hearts and minds of NON REPUBLICANS.

 

[V3n]

You HAVE, however, attacked me.

For derailing threads and causing arguments, yes. Just as you have done once again. What does Rand Paul have to do with Gary Johnson video? NOTHING.

You asked me WHY I bash Rand Paul, and I answered. Re-MEM-ber?

The bashing of Gary Johnson continues, and yet you object only to my continued association of Gary Johnson bashing with RAND and his endorsement of Ron Paul's rival Mitt Romney. That there is whatcha call DISCRIMINATION.

Yes. I remember I found your answer honest within your own reasoning, you explained why.
I never said I agreed with it, or that I wouldn't question you about it every time you did it.

Endorsing and campaigning for Mitt Romney is a fine tactic for creating division, but I don't think it does ANYTHING to win the hearts and minds of NON REPUBLICANS.

Off subject. This thread is about a Gary Johnson video.

 

[cheapseats]

For derailing threads and causing arguments, yes. Just as you have done once again. What does Rand Paul have to do with Gary Johnson video? NOTHING.

BULLSHIT.

Gary Johnson bashing has VERY MUCH to do with Rand Paul.

Yes. I remember I found your answer honest within your own reasoning, you explained why.
I never said I agreed with it, or that I wouldn't question you about it every time you did it.

WITHOUT taking issue with Gary Johnson bashing. Like I said, YOUR DISCRIMINATION IS SHOWING.

Off subject. This thread is about a Gary Johnson video.

Gary Johnson threads >> Gary Johnson bashing >> RAND PAUL'S ENDORSEMENT OF MITT ROMNEY + GOP "UNITY"

 

[TheTexan]

Rand Paul - Traditional conservative
Gary Johnson - Traditional libertarian
Ron Paul - Freedom fighter

See the difference yet cheapseats?

 

[cheapseats]

Rand Paul - Traditional conservative
Gary Johnson - Traditional libertarian
Ron Paul - Freedom fighter

See the difference yet cheapseats?

Ron Paul Freedom Fighter is NOT fighting for the Presidency, or his son RAND is an Ingrate and a Back-Stabber.

NOT all Ron Paul Support, NOT all Liberty Lovers, and CERTAINLY NOT all Freedom Fighters are on board with "Traditional Conservatism".

See the dilemma yet, bxm042?

 

[TheTexan]

See the dilemma yet, bxm042?

If you're going to waste your time playing politics at least do it with a candidate that's worth while

 

[cheapseats]

If you're going to waste your time playing politics at least do it with a candidate that's worth while

Y'mean like Rand Paul is doing with MITT ROMNEY?

 

[TheTexan]

Y'mean like Rand Paul is doing with MITT ROMNEY?

Uh. No.

 

[Sujan]

what most people keep forgetting about Gary Johnson, that he is ACTUALLY ON THE BALLOT in all 50 states. Ron Paul won't be.
So of the 3 choices between Obama, Romney and Johnson, the last one is by far the best candidate for liberty and limited government.
His ads are pretty good too, so the liberty movement would make a wise choise backing Johnson after the convention when Paul will not be the nominee, i hope Paul will then endorse Johnson.

 

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[Travlyr]

gary johnson isnt a traditional libertarian

lee wrights is though ( didnt get LP nomination)

No doubt. If the Libertarian party would have nominated Lee Wrights, I would be all over it. But instead, the Libertarian Party picked a failed Republican to represent them. Sad. Very Sad.

 

[cheapseats]

gary johnson isnt a traditional libertarian

Considering the difficulty Americans are having pinning down TRADITIONAL Democrats and TRADITIONAL Republicans, I'm thinking "Traditional Libertarian" borders on OXYMORON.

lee wrights is though ( didnt get LP nomination)

Perhaps his failure to secure the Libertarian Party nomination reflects lack of popular support for this "traditional libertarianism" to which you allude. Regardless, he did NOT secure the nomination and he will NOT be on the ballot.

If Ron Paul does not secure the Republican Party nomination, HE will not be on the ballot.

Gary Johnson WILL be on the ballot (bearing in mind that Ron Paul could EASILY have secured the Libertarian Party nomination but elected to remain in the Republican fold).

what most people keep forgetting about Gary Johnson, that he is ACTUALLY ON THE BALLOT in all 50 states. Ron Paul won't be.
So of the 3 choices between Obama, Romney and Johnson, the last one is by far the best candidate for liberty and limited government.
His ads are pretty good too, so the liberty movement would make a wise choise backing Johnson after the convention when Paul will not be the nominee, i hope Paul will then endorse Johnson.

People don't FORGET that. Many financially and emotionally invested people are BITTERLY DISAPPOINTED, and some are downright PISSED. I don't blame them. They blame OTHERS, however.

But it is NOT Gary Johnson's fault, or mine, if the campaign strategy fails. It wasn't Gary Johnson, or me, saying STAY THE COURSE.