[VIDEO ADDED] Ron Paul on "The Libertarian Future" @ The Mises Circle 1/26/2013

[Occam's Banana]

Great! He's taking questions now (so I guess he won't be on the Q&A panel later).

 

[sailingaway]

Great! He's taking questions now (so I guess he won't be on the Q&A panel later).

NOOOOOO!!!!

my link crashed!!!!

yea! He's back!

 

[sailingaway]

Ouch, Thomas Massie.

 

[Occam's Banana]

He called Thomas Massie "Robert" ... oops! But he got "Justin Amash" right ...

 

[sailingaway]

any question with 'the Mafia interveners' in it is delicate, I guess I'm glad he didn't hear that one.

 

[Occam's Banana]

In his presentation (his first at a Mises Institute event), Benjamin Powell teased Tom Woods about plugging his books.

Looking forward to Tom's "old gunslinger" reaction to the "young gun" calling him out ...

 

[sailingaway]

I love Tom's take on Ron's campaign....

 

[Confederate]

 

[belian78]

With your blind hate for Libertarians, Confederate, I'm pleasantly surprised that you took the time to watch this. I hope you're sticking around for Tom Woods, he's always brilliant.

 

[Confederate]

With your blind hate for Libertarians, Confederate, I'm pleasantly surprised that you took the time to watch this. I hope you're sticking around for Tom Woods, he's always brilliant.

I don't hate libertarians, I agree with them on many issues. I'm just not one.

 

[torchbearer]

I don't hate libertarians, I agree with them on many issues. I'm just not one.

What part of self-ownership do you disagree with?

 

[ClydeCoulter]

I'm still trying to digest the libertarian thing also, Confederate. I firstly agree with the NAP, and sound money. Foreign policy is important first, then also, and as important, liberty here at home, and I think both are needed for the other to work.

 

[sailingaway]

I don't need to be 'libertarian' nor am I offended at being called that. It means so many different things to so many different people. I know torchbearer's reasoned from NAP definition, but there are a ton of others popularly believed to be and called libertarian. I mean, look at Beck....

 

[belian78]

Confederate's hate is for (L)ibertarians, as he sees them all as just spoiling Republican races and handing them to the Democrats. Or his past posts seems to give that impression.

 

[torchbearer]

Confederate's hate is for (L)ibertarians, as he sees them all as just spoiling Republican races and handing them to the Democrats. Or his past posts seems to give that impression.

His idea the republicans are good democrats are bad is a simpleton view and incorrect.
the leadership of the GOP are progressives. he supports them apparently.

 

[belian78]

Back on topic, I hope some tubes get posted soon, I'm working and missed sections of both Ron and Tom.

/begs

 

[Confederate]

His idea the republicans are good democrats are bad is a simpleton view and incorrect.
the leadership of the GOP are progressives. he supports them apparently.

I've never said I think Republicans are good. They tend to be better than Democrats, but for the most part are for just as big a government. I do think the LP is a waste of time and money, though. And I hate the social liberalism of most libertarians.

 

[torchbearer]

I've never said I think Republicans are good. They tend to be better than Democrats, but for the most part are for just as big a government. I do think the LP is a waste of time and money, though. And I hate the social liberalism of most libertarians.

you mean, you hate the whole self-ownership thing.

 

[belian78]

I've never said I think Republicans are good. They tend to be better than Democrats, but for the most part are for just as big a government. I do think the LP is a waste of time and money, though. And I hate the social liberalism of most libertarians.

Yeah, self governance and freedom are pesky things, are they not?

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Confederate's hate is for (L)ibertarians, as he sees them all as just spoiling Republican races and handing them to the Democrats. Or his past posts seems to give that impression.

As a libertarian and having been a dues paying member of the LP from the time I was 14 until somewhere in my mid-twenties, I've come to evolve w/ Ron's restoring the GOP concept. I was well aware of the RLC back then but it took a guy like Ron to give the concept traction. Clearly, we've made major strides in many states and also smaller ones in many more states and counties, so there's no reason to abandon that just because the vehicle isn't the LP. And, I'm all for the LP and CP to run candidates in races where there isn't an identifiable liberty leaning republican (80+) running but it infuriates me and runs the saboteur gauntlet when they do to known liberty folk. We're not getting the most bang for the buck when libertarians waste resources running against the likes of Rep Amash. In fact, the LP is making itself an enemy to those libertarian republicans in other races when they try nipping at the heels of great republicans such as Amash. Because we cherish electing solid liberty republicans and then we see the LP spite us as RLC peeps because we're not using the LP by stabbing our guys in the back, you further the division even more. It's only the holier-than-thou libertarians that refuse to go with what works and merely dabble in irrelevancy. Life is too short to spin one's wheels doing something for the sake of doing it w/o a clear cut strategy to succeed. The definition of insanity>