[VIDEO ADDED] Ron Paul on "The Libertarian Future" @ The Mises Circle 1/26/2013

[torchbearer]

As a libertarian and having been a dues paying member of the LP from the time I was 14 until somewhere in my mid-twenties, I've come to evolve w/ Ron's restoring the GOP concept. I was well aware of the RLC back then but it took a guy like Ron to give the concept traction. Clearly, we've made major strides in many states and also smaller ones in many more states and counties, so there's no reason to abandon that just because the vehicle isn't the LP. And, I'm all for the LP and CP to run candidates in races where there isn't an identifiable liberty leaning republican (80+) running but it infuriates me and runs the saboteur gauntlet when they do to known liberty folk. We're not getting the most bang for the buck when libertarians waste resources running against the likes of Rep Amash. In fact, the LP is making itself an enemy to those libertarian republicans in other races when they try nipping at the heels of great republicans such as Amash. Because we cherish electing solid liberty republicans and then we see the LP spite us as RLC peeps because we're not using the LP by stabbing our guys in the back, you further the division even more. It's only the holier-than-thou libertarians that refuse to go with what works and merely dabble in irrelevancy. Life is too short to spin one's wheels doing something for the sake of doing it w/o a clear cut strategy to succeed. The definition of insanity>

I just want to address this part of your post as a former central committee member of the LALP(a decade of service)

the LP is making itself an enemy to those libertarian republicans in other races when they try nipping at the heels of great republicans such as Amash.

we often had times when registered libertarians would run in races against "good" republican candidates.
it was never a party endorsed decision. it was always a renegade purist who was being an ass.
It offends me that you blame the LP for such things. You can't force someone from being registered libertarian, and you can't force someone from not running in a particular race.
this shit happened almost yearly, and i have a feeling that this wasn't specific to just my state.
our by-laws may have forbidden us from financially supporting republican candidates, but we never plotted to run against liberty minded republicans.
the only fuck-offs that did that were the purist, who will in the future be sabotaging rand in favor of bush/obama redux.
i don't understand their sickness/illogic, but don't blame the LP for their stupidity.

 

[sailingaway]

Here's a great picture for playing 'where's Waldo' with....

 

[jj-]

"others make those ideas palatable" -Ron Paul

Maybe Rand Paul read that part of Human Action?

 

[sailingaway]

Ron made them pretty palatable:

 

[MikeStanart]

This event was a great success. The After party (hosted by Students for Liberty & Liberty on the Rocks) included Karaoke with about 125 attending. Lots of beer & fun. We will be following this event up with many more.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

i don't understand their sickness/illogic, but don't blame the LP for their stupidity.

It naturally reflects on the party and perhaps they should have more control over their banner. It's highly possible that this illogic may continue with more of the Rand haters specifically targeting libertarian republicans out of spite and using the LP as a vehicle. I mean, it only takes that one person to put his name on the ballot and goad other libertarian lever pullers to siphon the votes away.

 

[torchbearer]

It naturally reflects on the party and perhaps they should have more control over their banner. It's highly possible that this illogic may continue with more of the Rand haters specifically targeting libertarian republicans out of spite and using the LP as a vehicle. I mean, it only takes that one person to put his name on the ballot and goad other libertarian lever pullers to siphon the votes away.

well that is the same fallacy the GOP leadership suffers from...
those votes don't belong to us, we have to earn them.
if they go to another candidate, they didn't steal them from us. we lost them.

If Ron had run Indie in 2012- he wouldn't have stolen votes from romney or obama, they would have lost them to Ron.

 

[Occam's Banana]

This event was a great success. The After party (hosted by Students for Liberty & Liberty on the Rocks) included Karaoke with about 125 attending. Lots of beer & fun. We will be following this event up with many more.

Did Bob Murphy perform? If he did, someone better have got it on video. The economy is suffering from a severe shortage of Bob Murphy karaoke 'tubes.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

well that is the same fallacy the GOP leadership suffers from...
those votes don't belong to us, we have to earn them.
if they go to another candidate, they didn't steal them from us. we lost them.

I hear ya but most of the LP votes in Amash's race would likely have went to him if the other jerk wasn't on the ballot. Same thing happened here in Kerry's special election with the LP and CP (known as US Taxpayers party here) that both fielded candidates but I'll give them a pass as they were likely running (as perennials) before this shitstorm happened. Sadly, I don't have an answer to stop LPers from sabotaging liberty republicans besides bribing someone to run under the Green banner.

 

[MikeStanart]

Did Bob Murphy perform? If he did, someone better have got it on video. The economy is suffering from a severe shortage of Bob Murphy karaoke 'tubes.

Here's one of them! Bob Murphy & YAL's Corie Whalen

 

[Occam's Banana]

Here's one of them! Bob Murphy & YAL's Corie Whalen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHhU3zWlIuw

Oh, hell, yeah! Now that's what I'm talkin' 'bout ...