Vets have broken down barricades at Lincoln Memorial and are carrying them to the White House

[AuH20]

The media is losing their mind about the guy with the confederate flag, instead of focusing on the dimwit who decided to close an open air veterans memorial that was largely funded with private donations!!!

http://www.mediaite.com/online/vide...ack-man-right-in-front-of-confederate-flag/#0

 

[tod evans]

The media is losing their mind about the guy with the confederate flag, instead of focusing on the dimwit who decided to close an open air veterans memorial that was largely funded with private donations!!!

Maybe they'll be so kind as to inform the public just which flags are acceptable...

 

[AuH20]

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I pledge allegiance to the flag?

The dictionary definition of allegiance is the loyalty owed by a citizen to his government or country. All I can muster for something like that is a big laugh. I don't owe anything to an abstract entity or 315 million other people. I have allegiance to my family and that's it. Take care of your own.

 

[AuH20]

The revolution definitely will not be televised. This is going to be fun going forward.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Setting an example would be better. Everyone and their programs is why nothing can be cut. Why the government expands by leaps and bounds annually. Set the example, speak out and hope others follow your lead.

And I'm only going to tell you this because no one told my credit ignorant ass it when I was young; you mess up your credit, and your life is fundamentally fucked. They give you the loans to pay for schooling (not education) which costs exorbitant amounts more than it should so that you are forever indebted to the system. There are ways to pay for a college education without selling your soul. (figuratively speaking) And this propaganda campaign that swept through the high schools that everyone needs to go to college, for jobs which there is not a high enough demand for, is a scam. It will probably be what collapses the system.

The railroad is hiring here. Starting off at $50,000+. A diploma is all you need. Some jobs there are paying $115,000+. If a student fresh out of high school had that money in his pocket he'd want for nothing. Tens years of work and he could pay for his own schooling. Or perhaps become wiser to the game and educate himself for free.

I don't want to sound like I'm preaching to you but I wish someone would have told my ass when I was younger. I thought I knew it all and got caught up. (and for what? Random obscure 'knowledge' I'll never need?) I am serious when I say this that looking back on it now, it is all a joke.

It is the moral hazard of the Fed fixing the interest rates. The enticement of the money then and there, no matter what ability you have to ever pay it off, the low interest rates, the ignorance many have on credit and our monetary [enslavement] system: It isn't worth it. I don't care if they're teaching Austrian Economics and a sensible foreign policy.

Pretty much my entire education is being paid for by financial aid at the moment, for better or worse.

And I'm betting if the SHTF you will be on the right side of the Constitution.

I believe he would. I'm curious how many of the people who are ticked off over the memorials would though.

Excellent analysis

...and to FreedomFanatic, I would also like to remind you that up until and including Vietnam Vets, most of those people who served were drafted....they didn't volunteer.

So because someone legally required you to murder it becomes more acceptable?

 

[Christian Liberty]

Regarding the draft issue:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/02/laurence-m-vance/murder-is-still-murder/

 

[shane77m]

If you want a good laugh, then read about this at Democratic Underground http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014619616

The feeble-minded are saying the vets and Cruz should have been tazed, beat down and arrested. Some of them actually believe no vets were involved at all. The protestors were all "agent provocateurs."

BWWWWWAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think the country would be better off if we would just go ahead and split up and be done with it. I wouldn't piss on those loons over at DU and those like them if they were on fire.

 

[AuH20]

Regarding the draft issue:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/02/laurence-m-vance/murder-is-still-murder/

Many of the men who engaged in combat were fighting for their own lives as well their fellow mates. For example, you're patrolling in the la Drang valley and run into a VC brigade. Do you drop your weapon and cower because you don't want to be inaccurately labeled by Laurence Vance as a murderer? Horseshit.

 

[jbauer]

Not to take anything away from WW2 Veterans, but there weren't many there at all. It was mostly Vietnam vets, Iraq and Afghanistan veterans.

Gee, think that might be because the WW2 vets are in their late 80s or older?

 

[Ender]

How many different perspectives have you viewed the world from since you were 18?

My grandpa always said he didn't know nuttin' until he was 60, and then nobody would listen to him.

 

[jmdrake]

Snipers on top of the White House.

Gotta have someone to shoot unarmed single black mothers with one year old babies in the back of the car.

 

[Dr.3D]

Gee, think that might be because the WW2 vets are in their late 80s or older?

Yep, many of them have already passed away. The Vietnam vets are no spring chickens either.

 

[cajuncocoa]

So because someone legally required you to murder it becomes more acceptable?

No, not at all. But I don't have an issue with self-defense, and I truly believe that (up until Vietnam) veterans really believed they were fighting for our freedoms and defending our country. There are a lot of conspiracy theories about the attack on Pearl Harbor that led to our involvement in WWII, but as the Internet didn't exist in 1941, those people probably were not aware of the evidence that suggests FDR allowed that attack to happen...and they were worried that Japanese forces might go on to California next and then from there, who knows? They really believed they were defending the U.S. And, if what they believe is true, I have no problem with defense operations under those circumstances. It IS regrettable, but necessary.

Up until Vietnam, I tend to think most Americans viewed our military involvements that way.

Do you have any Vietnam or WWII vets in your family, FF? I believe they would be better qualified to answer that question than I am. I suggest that maybe you should have a discussion about this with them.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

So because someone legally required you to murder it becomes more acceptable?

Yep, you got it right. Anybody who thinks he can require killing somebody with whom I have no personal beef has another thing coming. Anybody who thinks they can do that because they passed some kind of "law" with sanctions also becomes fair game for his own game.

 

[dinosaur]

God Bless them. Yeah, they are the only ones who can get away with a stunt like this and we need them.

 

[tod evans]

My grandpa always said he didn't know nuttin' until he was 60, and then nobody would listen to him.

Well thank God!

Sounds like the trend of getting more stupid every year since passing 30 changes once ya' pass 60, I've got a few more years but now I've got something to look forward to..

 

[cajuncocoa]

Gee, think that might be because the WW2 vets are in their late 80s or older?

Yeah, probably older. My Dad had just turned 18 a couple of months before the attack on Pearl Harbor; he immediately went out and enlisted in the Navy. Last Thursday would have been my Dad's 90th birthday.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Many of the men who engaged in combat were fighting for their own lives as well their fellow mates. For example, you're patrolling in the la Drang valley and run into a VC brigade. Do you drop your weapon and cower because you don't want to be inaccurately labeled by Laurence Vance as a murderer? Horseshit.

You never allow yourself to be in that position in the first place.

Why the FUCK would an American find himself walking a patrol in Ia Drang in 1965 to begin with!? What threat to himself and his family was he going to find there, without putting himself or his family there in the first place?

You don't get to start playing Monopoly from fucking Free Parking, Goldwater. You start from fucking Start.

Horseshit.

 

[Christian Liberty]

No, not at all. But I don't have an issue with self-defense, and I truly believe that (up until Vietnam) veterans really believed they were fighting for our freedoms and defending our country. There are a lot of conspiracy theories about the attack on Pearl Harbor that led to our involvement in WWII, but as the Internet didn't exist in 1941, those people probably were not aware of the evidence that suggests FDR allowed that attack to happen...and they were worried that Japanese forces might go on to California next and then from there, who knows? They really believed they were defending the U.S. And, if what they believe is true, I have no problem with defense operations under those circumstances. It IS regrettable, but necessary.

Up until Vietnam, I tend to think most Americans viewed our military involvements that way.

Do you have any Vietnam or WWII vets in your family, FF? I believe they would be better qualified to answer that question than I am. I suggest that maybe you should have a discussion about this with them.

I don't know if anyone in my family fought in Vietnam. I honestly don't want to know. I know one of my grandparents was in between Korea and Vietnam, but I don't know for sure of any who fought in Vietnam or WWII.

You never allow yourself to be in that position in the first place.

Why the FUCK would an American find himself walking a patrol in Ia Drang in 1965 to begin with!? What threat to himself and his family was he going to find there, without putting himself or his family there in the first place?

You don't get to start playing Monopoly from fucking Free Parking, Goldwater. You start from fucking Start.

Horseshit.

thumbs up.

Let me change his post a little to demonstrate the point:

Many of the men who engaged in combat were fighting for their own lives as well their fellow bank robbers. For example, you're robbing a bank and run into a group of armed security guards. Do you drop your weapon and cower because you don't want to be inaccurately labeled by Laurence Vance as a murderer? Horseshit.

As I said, I'm not sure there's much of a real committment to liberty and its implications even here.