Very disturbing strategy being used against Ron Paul

[Travlyr]

We are the bad guys because of what we stand for.

The system knows that if "our" ideas fully take hold, "they" are finished, over, done, and many of them will likely end up going to prison.

They will do anything to prevent that from happening, including any number of dirty tricks.

That's why it's pointless to try and sit in the corner like a choirboy and follow the game by their rules.

It doesn't matter how well we behave, if not a single boo was said, not single snowball thrown, not a single nasty email sent, they would just make it up anyway!

Keep on pushing, everybody, in any way that you can, in the best way you can.

Regardless of what happens in this election, the landscape has been radically changed, and that is due to pressure from us, the loud, rude, obxnious, tireless minority demanding our freedom.

Damn straight! + rep

 

[Thomas]

If someone can write up a press release that addresses/exposes this, we might be able to get some good earned media... Anyone want to take a stab at it?

We could probably use the Mitt Bot NPR Madness episode as ongoing evidence of cheating by the establishment types. I have a screenshot of one of the voting graphs, I don't have any of the screenshots from their forum, where they were caught planning the fraud...

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What meetup exactly was this? What is your friend's name?

 

[po14015]

This is interesting as we had our first meetup a week ago with close to 50 people. At the very end, a woman said she had just found Ron Paul but wanted to know "Why she shouldn't vote for Mitt Romney."

It seemed very staged. We assumed it was the local Republican group, but now I am curious as to who she was.

We are coming out with the Florida database in the next week, and now we will have to take even more steps to validate users.

If we find out any more info on the woman, I will post it.

In Liberty,

Curt

 

[PatriotOne]

An aquaintance of mine recently told me something I found very disturbing. He is a Romney supporter (I dont hold that against him), whom recently left their equivalent of our "meetup" group due to bad policies of slandering others and not actually promoting their own candidate. Apparently their arguement for slander was that Romney had such a huge lead they could merely keep others down to win the nomination and Ron Paul was target number 1.

He told me that not only was their meetup targeting Ron Paul but the malicious idea the meetup was using, was copied from another campaigns this year also being used against RP.

They are basically trying to demonize our base (even more than the media currently is) as violent, aggressive, rude, and ignorant. They are doing this by mass email and phone calls. Basically they will pick a random article from a google feed and then all lambast the author with hundreds of contacts with obscene rhetoric, slandering, and sometimes even violence.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

mmmmmmmmmmm...victory is goin to taste so sweet

 

[Thomas]

This is interesting as we had our first meetup a week ago with close to 50 people. At the very end, a woman said she had just found Ron Paul but wanted to know "Why she shouldn't vote for Mitt Romney."

It seemed very staged. We assumed it was the local Republican group, but now I am curious as to who she was.

We are coming out with the Florida database in the next week, and now we will have to take even more steps to validate users.

If we find out any more info on the woman, I will post it.

In Liberty,

Curt

check FEC records

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

This is interesting as we had our first meetup a week ago with close to 50 people. At the very end, a woman said she had just found Ron Paul but wanted to know "Why she shouldn't vote for Mitt Romney."

It seemed very staged. We assumed it was the local Republican group, but now I am curious as to who she was.

We are coming out with the Florida database in the next week, and now we will have to take even more steps to validate users.

If we find out any more info on the woman, I will post it.

In Liberty,

Curt

Hey, you guys are down in Bradenton right? I'll be back in New Port Richey in September, so I'll be looking forward to meeting up with like-minded folks.

 

[devil21]

This is interesting as we had our first meetup a week ago with close to 50 people. At the very end, a woman said she had just found Ron Paul but wanted to know "Why she shouldn't vote for Mitt Romney."

It seemed very staged. We assumed it was the local Republican group, but now I am curious as to who she was.

We are coming out with the Florida database in the next week, and now we will have to take even more steps to validate users.

If we find out any more info on the woman, I will post it.

In Liberty,

Curt

This sort of stuff is key. If your BS sensor goes off then it's fair to say that the person should be looked at closer and talked to. Romney supporters are SCARED of Paul and this thread is proof. Anytime anyone sees one of these people acting bad in RP's name PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE confront them! Actors like this will do it with impunity if they think no one will call them out. When you do call them out they'll get scared, defensive and generally just give up the goods on what they're doing. WEED THESE FUCKERS OUT! Every last true member of this movement is smart enough to get to the bottom of this crap.

Having said that, we also just have some genuine supporters that have no tact and no manners and don't care the repercussions on the campaign from their actions. No self-control iow. These people should also be confronted about what they are doing and what they thing they are accomplishing.

 

[AFPVet]

We are the bad guys because of what we stand for.

The system knows that if "our" ideas fully take hold, "they" are finished, over, done, and many of them will likely end up going to prison.

They will do anything to prevent that from happening, including any number of dirty tricks.

That's why it's pointless to try and sit in the corner like a choirboy and follow the game by their rules.

It doesn't matter how well we behave, if not a single boo was said, not single snowball thrown, not a single nasty email sent, they would just make it up anyway!

Keep on pushing, everybody, in any way that you can, in the best way you can.

Regardless of what happens in this election, the landscape has been radically changed, and that is due to pressure from us, the loud, rude, obnoxious, tireless minority demanding our freedom.

Exactly! Those who are against the people and the Constitution are against the LAW! We are winning this fight... and this is what I swore an oath to... supporting and defending the Constitution! We just have to tip the scales and restore order. Everyone I talk to are in agreement—this is in academia—as well as commonplace.

 

[Yieu]

Everybody was passing out stickers and leaflets along with pens, pins, magnets, signs, hats and so on and so forth. So if we were annoying so was everybody else who was doing the same thing. Yes many of us (myself included) would stand in line to ask questions to the big government types on stage yet these same lines were also populated with people who were all too anxious to grovel at the feet of their masters. So why are we the bad guys for wanting to ask questions? I did not agree with the FEW who decided to boo Rumsfeld, Trump, Cheney, etc but when someone was confronted with a tough question we did cheer. So what? Everyone else cheered when Ann Coulter made her stupid jokes or when Tim "might makes right" Pawlenty was spewing his nonsense and everyone around me sat quietly and let them enjoy themselves. Yet when Ron Paul's name was mentioned these same people who claim to have been "outraged" by our behavior were booing at the top of their lungs. So why is it that we are the bad guys for being enthusiastic and supporting our guy just the same as other candidates were being supported? It sounds to me like your friend went to cpac already determined to find anything Ron Paul related to be annoying. God forbid those who resist this nonsense actually show up so their voices can be heard. I guess the GOP is all about freedom of speech unless you disagree with them on some fundamental issues. Maybe we are worked up and devoted but I would take those people any day over the people that bankrupted my country, sent thousands of young men and women to their deaths for lies, killed untold millions of others around the world and eroded my rights here at home.

+Rep, I know I behaved myself, and I didn't see anyone acting out. I think they just want to have ammo against us, even if we disarm them with kindness, so they'll make stuff up. And what's up with the double standard of it's okay for the majority of the establishment types to boo Ron Paul winning the straw poll, and only a minority booed at other people on stage while the majority of us were well behaved and that gets demonized.

 

[Captain America]

Since Ron Paul is mainstream, they target him. They need to keep up the unelectable drum beat, but now in a different way. Is it the time of libery? or is it the continuation of feudalism?

 

[PermanentSleep]

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[mit26chell]

This makes a lot of sense. I noticed it this morning, as the comments on articles just tainted anything good the articles had to say.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

The media is damn powerful and we really have to get passed them and TO THE PEOPLE this election cycle for this to work. We have to UNDO everything people hear on tv and hell even online sometimes. Belly to belly conversations will win this one IF we start soon enough. We aren't really campaigning for a presidential candidate but rather going around telling people how we need to get back to the constitution and explaining WHY certain things NEED to be changed.

Imagine having a great conversation with a neighbor about how cool it would be if they would remove the income tax. You don't even need to name drop ron paul at all. Just bring up the POINTS and how great of an idea it is and then once the candidates are showcased many will start seeing those "great ideas" within one man and CHOOSE FOR THEMSELVES ron paul versus us stuffing it down their throats on street corners with ron paul signs lol.

We need to educate the ideas and ideals of and behind the constition. Wake everyone up to the fact that we cannot live off of the efforts of others EVEN IF we get cool shit like iphones and other crap. We need to teach our children how to GROW FOOD and live off the land. What if all the fast food joints were removed for some reason as well as any food supply chain. I mean how many people would know what to eat or how to eat if you couldn't simply run up to the store and grab some twinkies and something you can heat up in the microwave.

We have left our survival roots behind and are simply sitting around "waiting to be fed".

 

[Suzu]

This year, like last year, people sporting Ron Paul signs booed whenever another speaker said something like America fully supports Israel. The GOP base HATES this. I personally saw many walk out after Cain's speech because he got booed for saying that if Israel is attacked then so is the USA. This kind of rudeness doesn't help us at all. If it comes from real RP supporters rather than infiltrators or posers from another campaign, I don't think we can win any new hearts and minds

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

No matter what I believe the free speech is still in effect and if anyone wants to scream bitch or moan I say GO FOR IT but it won't make very good political sense. If they are fake emailing from so called ron paul supporters WHO CARES. Lets get to the point of the subject and why this election cycle matters "the people". If we wake up the people they will be educated to understand that the media bullshit is just that BULLSHIT.

If the mittens crew wants to play dirty let them. My thoughts though, would Ron Paul try and combat that or would he continue on HIS path? I say, focus and stay the course.

 

[sunghoko]

Yeah, if you can infiltrate an opposing candidate's meetup, you should go for it--and not even tell your mother until after you get the goods on them.

That said, it might be a plan to bring it up at the local meetup, though not until you're in a meeting. Volunteers could be assigned to various campaigns. Of course, you have to find them first. Do the others even have enough grassroots to find?

Given the nature of the candidates, it's hard to believe this is decentralized.

I agree. hope someone can find proof and higher up the chain, the better. possible acorn 2.0 if its video proof

 

[virgil47]

This year, like last year, people sporting Ron Paul signs booed whenever another speaker said something like America fully supports Israel. The GOP base HATES this. I personally saw many walk out after Cain's speech because he got booed for saying that if Israel is attacked then so is the USA. This kind of rudeness doesn't help us at all. If it comes from real RP supporters rather than infiltrators or posers from another campaign, I don't think we can win any new hearts and minds

I agree. If we as true supporters see supposed RPers causing trouble we need to intervene and make sure those around us know we are the true RPers. We cannot tolerate those that would destroy Ron's chances due to their selfish or misguided desires. We also cannot allow infiltrators or those that would lie, cheat or steal to ensure that Ron is not elected. We as supporters must be very, very vigilant in order to protect and improve his chances.