Very disturbing strategy being used against Ron Paul

[Danke]

I think people of 100+ years ago would laugh at how tame politics has become. And we had more freedoms back then.

 

[anaconda]

It would probably be easy to record them discussing this at one of their meetings. It might make big news. Could record video even. My Canon point and shoot camera is tiny and it the video and sound quality are both excellent. Unfortunately the OP is in the east coast and I am on the west coast so I can't help out on this. Probably a cell phone video might be less conspicuous and would work fine too.

 

[Esoteric]

You can't stop an idea whose time has come.

Unless people think the idea is the equivalent of hitler's idea.

 

[acptulsa]

Long and short of it is, we can out this group and that group, and it will help. But we won't out them all, and we won't stop them all. Outing a few is well worth the trouble because from then on, we get more benefit of the doubt. But we're also going to have to be diligent. This is going to come at us from all sides.

In other words, the campaign has begun!

 

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

I have seen this crap in action. A republican activist I work with went to cpac and when she returned said that the Ron Paul supporters there were the rudest people she had ever seen. Said they were booing and screaming, that they littered the place with leaflets and stickers and were just the most annoying people she or anyone else had ever met. Said that no condidate should tolerate this behavior. Said they were trying to stack on to the mic etc... Then went on to say "He can't win" several times. The last time though I did sense a little insecurity..."He CAN'T win"....

Everybody was passing out stickers and leaflets along with pens, pins, magnets, signs, hats and so on and so forth. So if we were annoying so was everybody else who was doing the same thing. Yes many of us (myself included) would stand in line to ask questions to the big government types on stage yet these same lines were also populated with people who were all too anxious to grovel at the feet of their masters. So why are we the bad guys for wanting to ask questions? I did not agree with the FEW who decided to boo Rumsfeld, Trump, Cheney, etc but when someone was confronted with a tough question we did cheer. So what? Everyone else cheered when Ann Coulter made her stupid jokes or when Tim "might makes right" Pawlenty was spewing his nonsense and everyone around me sat quietly and let them enjoy themselves. Yet when Ron Paul's name was mentioned these same people who claim to have been "outraged" by our behavior were booing at the top of their lungs. So why is it that we are the bad guys for being enthusiastic and supporting our guy just the same as other candidates were being supported? It sounds to me like your friend went to cpac already determined to find anything Ron Paul related to be annoying. God forbid those who resist this nonsense actually show up so their voices can be heard. I guess the GOP is all about freedom of speech unless you disagree with them on some fundamental issues. Maybe we are worked up and devoted but I would take those people any day over the people that bankrupted my country, sent thousands of young men and women to their deaths for lies, killed untold millions of others around the world and eroded my rights here at home.

 

[virgil47]

It would probably be easy to record them discussing this at one of their meetings. It might make big news. Could record video even. My Canon point and shoot camera is tiny and it the video and sound quality are both excellent. Unfortunately the OP is in the east coast and I am on the west coast so I can't help out on this. Probably a cell phone video might be less conspicuous and would work fine too.

Be very careful of recording someone without their knowledge. You could easily end up facing an illegal wire tap rap.

 

[acptulsa]

Be very careful of recording someone without their knowledge. You could easily end up facing an illegal wire tap rap.

This would more likely be done in person. I've never heard of doing this (except perhaps in a corporate boardroom where industrial secrets are discussed, or in some ugly places where the person being recorded is a cop) being illegal.

 

[Nate-ForLiberty]

I don't think recording a public meeting is illegal.

 

[MJU1983]

I don't think recording a public meeting is illegal.

Federal Law is one party consent and it depends on the state you are in for recording without the other parties permission/consent. A lot are also one party consent, and that one party can be you.

 

[acptulsa]

Someone good at stroking egos could probably get permission anyway.

I hope those who aren't necessarily the best trollbusters will come here if they call out an alleged supporter being an ass and he or she doesn't chill. A real supporter probably will, and I would hope they would even apologize. Otherwise, come post about it here. Whether or not you figure you can handle it, any situation is easier if you have back up.

We've been pwning trolls for years now. We could take the show on the road.

 

[sarahdeez]

some we probably shouldn't...

^definitely!

 

[acptulsa]

^definitely!

Yeah, if you can infiltrate an opposing candidate's meetup, you should go for it--and not even tell your mother until after you get the goods on them.

That said, it might be a plan to bring it up at the local meetup, though not until you're in a meeting. Volunteers could be assigned to various campaigns. Of course, you have to find them first. Do the others even have enough grassroots to find?

Given the nature of the candidates, it's hard to believe this is decentralized.

 

[Matthew Zak]

This is definitely the fighting phase. They feel the shift. It's like the 5th round when Ali starts to take more bold shots against Foreman who thinks he's busting Ali up against the ropes. They're fatigued... Ali is gaining confidence... so they're swinging wildly, desperately trying to knock us out of the race before its obvious to everyone in the audience that Ali has already won.

 

[Anti Federalist]

So why are we the bad guys for wanting to ask questions?

We are the bad guys because of what we stand for.

The system knows that if "our" ideas fully take hold, "they" are finished, over, done, and many of them will likely end up going to prison.

They will do anything to prevent that from happening, including any number of dirty tricks.

That's why it's pointless to try and sit in the corner like a choirboy and follow the game by their rules.

It doesn't matter how well we behave, if not a single boo was said, not single snowball thrown, not a single nasty email sent, they would just make it up anyway!

Keep on pushing, everybody, in any way that you can, in the best way you can.

Regardless of what happens in this election, the landscape has been radically changed, and that is due to pressure from us, the loud, rude, obxnious, tireless minority demanding our freedom.

 

[Eagles' Wings]

they would just make it up anyway![/B]

Great post, AF. It's persecution and we have to expect many months/years of it. The righteous will prevail!

 

[givemeliberty]

Everybody was passing out stickers and leaflets along with pens, pins, magnets, signs, hats and so on and so forth. So if we were annoying so was everybody else who was doing the same thing. Yes many of us (myself included) would stand in line to ask questions to the big government types on stage yet these same lines were also populated with people who were all too anxious to grovel at the feet of their masters. So why are we the bad guys for wanting to ask questions? I did not agree with the FEW who decided to boo Rumsfeld, Trump, Cheney, etc but when someone was confronted with a tough question we did cheer. So what? Everyone else cheered when Ann Coulter made her stupid jokes or when Tim "might makes right" Pawlenty was spewing his nonsense and everyone around me sat quietly and let them enjoy themselves. Yet when Ron Paul's name was mentioned these same people who claim to have been "outraged" by our behavior were booing at the top of their lungs. So why is it that we are the bad guys for being enthusiastic and supporting our guy just the same as other candidates were being supported? It sounds to me like your friend went to cpac already determined to find anything Ron Paul related to be annoying. God forbid those who resist this nonsense actually show up so their voices can be heard. I guess the GOP is all about freedom of speech unless you disagree with them on some fundamental issues. Maybe we are worked up and devoted but I would take those people any day over the people that bankrupted my country, sent thousands of young men and women to their deaths for lies, killed untold millions of others around the world and eroded my rights here at home.

I had to bite my tongue. I just said to her that I "Heard Ron Paul won the CPAC" to get the conversation going and she started on about it. Seemed to me she was more against Ron Paul than FOR anyone else. She did babble on about some .mil guy from Florida. In my opinion that is what supporters should do. It's not our fault their guy's supporters don't have the same energy or passion, so they make it like it's a bad thing.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I had to bite my tongue. I just said to her that I "Heard Ron Paul won the CPAC" to get the conversation going and she started on about it. Seemed to me she was more against Ron Paul than FOR anyone else. She did babble on about some .mil guy from Florida. In my opinion that is what supporters should do. It's not our fault their guy's supporters don't have the same energy or passion, so they make it like it's a bad thing.

HA HA! I can just picture you doing this. I'm sure you handled it perfectly. Sounds like she was spinning like a top.

 

[CanadaBoy]

first they ignore you
then they laugh at you
then they fight you
then you win lyrics

 

[pcosmar]

It will impact people.

If we can catch them plotting to do it, we need to.

Romney does not have nearly as many supporters as he does employees.
And none too bright ones either.

They had a Rah Rah squad at Mackinac Island, they were hired to be there. And they admitted as much.
Get some on video talking about it. buy a few beers and steer the conversation and let nature take it's course.

 

[awake]

You mean the other guys are going to lie and cheat to win? This is what makes it fun: beating the other guys in spite of their crooked ways.