Ventura ended his chance to run as President...

[Malakai]

Please everyone, adopt Ron Paul's 9/11 policy. There is NOTHING WRONG with questioning government reports/investigations. And even Beck admitted that the questions Jesse asked about 9/11 were perfectly valid and not even remotely "crazy".

Calm down a lot of us are big fans of the guy. He's big funny and says what he really thinks every time =)

And you have to admit, underwater demolitions expert/navy seal, pro-wrestler, and governor; interesting resume!

 

[Mini-Me]

Please everyone, adopt Ron Paul's 9/11 policy. There is NOTHING WRONG with questioning government reports/investigations. And even Beck admitted that the questions Jesse asked about 9/11 were perfectly valid and not even remotely "crazy".

Calm down a lot of us are big fans of the guy. He's big funny and says what he really thinks every time =)

And you have to admit, underwater demolitions expert/navy seal, pro-wrestler, and governor; interesting resume!

For the record, I also see no problem with what Ventura specifically said, either...and in any case, he only presumes to speak for himself anyway.

 

[VoteForRonPaul]

But you going around and saying we are mostly truthers is just making us look bad! It's people like you guys that will never allow this movement to lift off into the mainsteam... You have a very skewed idea of how the mainsteam thinks. They are not turned on by conspiracy theorists AT ALL and will simply ridicule you and write you off...............

Oh yes.

Sacrifice your principles, sell your morals for cheap and share in the cover up in order to have access into the main stream media.

Sorry sir, if you allow yourself to do so, do so but do not ask me to share with you in such a cheap deal.

We Will Never Forget!

 

[VoteForRonPaul]

Saying the majority of 1.1 million registered Republicans are 'truthers' is an outrageous claim...

Well, unless you prove the opposite (which I am sure you will not) they will remain the majority whether you like it or not!

But there are some factors related to the 1.1 million registered Republicans which I have to mention:

1-Not all the one million registered voters are dedicated Ron Paul supporters.

2-Not all the one million registered voters are aware of any 9/11 hypotheses other than the official one, which means that a portion of them are not aware of the hypothesis that explosive brought down the towers and not fire.

3-The number of truthers among Ron Paul supporters should be counted from the number of those registered Republicans who voted Ron Paul and are aware of both hypotheses.

I myself was one of those who were not aware of other hypothesis until I did and that was it for me and since then I considered myself part of the truth movement and I am honored to do so although I never carried a sign and never chanted in the streets that 9/11 is an inside. But simply I refused to sell myself for cheap and share in the cover up.

When you think about the bones fragments of the victims which were discovered under the buildings and on the top of the roofs and this still does not move your senses to stand up and fight and seek the truth about what really happened that day, you got to think twice before you step another step and ask yourself who you actually are all about as a human being?

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

He ended his chance for me when he said he was going to go surf in Mexico and that was his main concern to surf with some champion ...that guy is TOOOO full of himself. I wont support him. No way. Tones

 

[VoteForRonPaul]

Interestingly, someone in that thread did mention that they were afraid of voting, "It may have been an inside job, but I'm not sure," because they were afraid it was a trap...in other words, they were afraid of being counted as a truther.

That is actually very interesting and I did not even notice that. But I consider this is also a sign that truthers are the majority. So now we can easily say say that there are a number of truthers among those who refused to share in the poll. And this would lead us to the probability that truthers might be the majority among those who refused to share.

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There are very good reasons why so many of us distance ourselves from the term "truther," and I really think you should respect our wishes. Keep the 9/11 truth movement separate...please.

I understand what your argument is about . But not only you are asking me to stop using the term truther but you are also asking me to keep the 9/11 truth movement separate. Brother that is two in one. If I will accept your request about the term truther due to your illustration, I will definitely reject the second one.

Why is this? It's because, once again, the average American has been conditioned to react extremely negatively to the word "truther."

I got to disagree with you here.

You actually giving the term truther a popularity more than it actually holds.
The fact is that the average American does not know what the term "truther" is about. Go stop 10 people in Walmart and recite on them the term "truther" I bet that at least 9 of them won't know what the hell you are talking about

Actually the mainstream media succeeded in its mission with you and with people who think the way you do and not with the average American. The MSM succeeded in penetrating a portion of the people who understand that the term "truther" holds behind it a truth.

Regardless the term, the message which stands behind it is the most important!
And as I said it before you do not have to announce yourself as a truther or as a part of the truth movement in order to be one.

 

[AutoDas]

It's definitely not because a loose contingent of crazies have bullhorns while the moderately rational Ron Paul supporters just have a sign out showing their support and not trying to push their personal agenda.

 

[ClayTrainor]

He ended his chance for me when he said he was going to go surf in Mexico and that was his main concern to surf with some champion ...that guy is TOOOO full of himself. I wont support him. No way. Tones

He's full of himself, yes. He's arrogant, yes. His point about surfing with Laird hamilton was pretty selfish but hear me out.

Jesse enjoys his life. He has alot to brag about, and unlike most "braggers" he doesnt make up bullshit. When he boasts, he boasts about things he's actually done and accomplished.

It's arrogant and selfish i agree but, this was a guy who played an arrogant, selfish badass on TV for years. He's never truly left his Wrestling personality behind. He's emphasizing that all he cares about is surfing with a pro, because he likes the challenge.

Jesse ventura has already served his country in more ways than one. He fought in the Vietnam war, Became mayor, and then governed an entire state with a pretty decent approval rating. Does he not have the right to be a bit arrogant? I'm willing to bet his record trumps nearly everyone in this forums' record.


All in all, i think his arrogance would be AWESOME in a debate against any neo-con or neo-lib.

If Ventura runs in 2012, and appears to have a glimmer of a chance, you'll support him Tones, i know it .

Ventura, while flawed, is 1776 times better than anything else you'll likely be offered in '12.

Him and Johnson together would be a deadly blow to the establishment.

 

[richardfortherepublic]

For the record, I also see no problem with what Ventura specifically said, either...and in any case, he only presumes to speak for himself anyway.

Here, here.

I am just mad about this fucking nut job saying the majority of Paul supporters are 'truthers'. This is far from the truth..

Sure we may question aspects of the attacks, but to throw us in the same boat as Alex Jones, and the loose change people, is quite annoying.

If you go around telling people, that the majority of Paul supporters are 'truthers', because a message board poll of a couple dozen people say they question the official story, You are no friend of mine. Its not your job to say what/who the MAJORITY of Paul supporters believe in. No one died and made you Ron Paul.

 

[rightwinghour]

For god's sake, it's not questioning 9/11 that ruins his chances, it's simply the way he looks, dresses and acts. America is very superficial.

I was kinda thinking he needs to shave his head again. He looks better that way.

 

[Zera]

Oh yes.

Sacrifice your principles, sell your morals for cheap and share in the cover up in order to have access into the main stream media.

Sorry sir, if you allow yourself to do so, do so but do not ask me to share with you in such a cheap deal.

We Will Never Forget!

Not once did I mention media. I said that to get into the mainsteam, which would mean getting into the public's eye.

Also, please don't associate yourself as a Paul supporter and a truther when you talk to people. Do it for the normal Paul supporter's sake.

 

[VoteForRonPaul]

Here, here.

I am just mad about this [DELETED] saying the majority of Paul supporters are 'truthers'. This is far from the truth..
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You idiot, if you cannot hold yourself and maintain a civil discussion then get out of here. Not because you are losing a debate and cannot back your position, you trash people. Advice, put your brain to work instead of your nasty mouth!

 

[VoteForRonPaul]

Not once did I mention media. I said that to get into the mainsteam, which would mean getting into the public's eye.

Thank you for correcting me here. That was my mistake mainsteam/mainstream look the same

Also, please don't associate yourself as a Paul supporter and a truther when you talk to people. Do it for the normal Paul supporter's sake.

Who said that I do man? I think this discussion has ended months ago since the FOX debate and since then I do not think anybody in the truth movement does so.

All the discussion that started was about something different. It was about the number of truth seekers among Ron Paul supporters. You said minority and I say majority.

But maybe I would agree with the term "minority" in one case and it is that those of the 9/11 truth seekers who associate Ron Paul with 9/11 stuff is the minority while the majority stopped doing so since long time ago.

 

[richardfortherepublic]

You idiot, if you cannot hold yourself and maintain a civil discussion then get out of here. Not because you are losing a debate and cannot back your position, you trash people. Advice, put your brain to work instead of your nasty mouth!

I'd recommend you put your brain to work and stop saying the majority of us are truthers.

I am pissed because I don't want to be associated with you people no more.

 

[VoteForRonPaul]

I'd recommend you put your brain to work and stop saying the majority of us are truthers.

I put my brain to work already and I have done some thinking while since you came to the thread you kept saying the same thing over and over again. Okay, I tell you what, I do not care how many times you say it! But when you say it say it with civility. There is no legitimate reason for trashing people who do not agree with you.

I am pissed because I don't want to be associated with you people no more.

Okay man, no one is forcing you to be associated with us, if we are the majority then consider yourself of the minority and live with it.

 

[Drknows]

I agree with the OP. Ventura blew it big time.

There is no way in hell he can win after making what is consider fringe comments.

Ron Paul could have won if he was more moderate in speaking and charismatic. Ron Paul had everything right. But lacked the appeal of being able to lead.

To go from Ron Paul to Ventura would be a huge step back for us in creditability.


A lot of you guys miss the big picture just like the far left do. America is made up of mostly moderate thinking Christians who have great love for this country.

Why do you think Obama is running to the center on every issue? Why do you think he denounced his church?

Why Do you think Mccain is trying to appeal to his base and please the center?

We need someone like ron paul who can better articulate the ideas and appeal to the center at the same time. being extremly strong on national defense and caring for the less fortunate. You cant have someone who is trying to rally a small group of people.

I'm sorry its true.

 

[RickyJ]

He did so when he made it pretty apparent that he is a truther on TV. This would be brought up instantly... Do you see that running very smoothly at all? We still have time to pick someone, let's not just rush into something just because he's all we know as of the very moment.

For that very reason I would vote for him over Ron Paul. Ventura can win a fair election, no doubt about it.

 

[Drknows]

4 years from now the truth movement will become a massive force. Do not underestimate that.

4 years from now it will be as popular as the Moon Landing movement.

 

[Drknows]

For that very reason I would vote for him over Ron Paul. Ventura can win a fair election, no doubt about it.

I guarantee you he would have lost Minnesota if he made those comments before running for governor.

 

[RickyJ]

They are when people will see you as a lunatic when you ask them. You can never question something as touchy as 9/11 when running for the highest office in the country. Sorry, but it's just true.

You do this cause no good. If you can't question authority than you are a mind numb sheeple.