Vance says US could drop support for NATO

[Swordsmyth]

JD Vance has suggested that American support for NATO should be predicated on the European Union not regulating Elon Musk and his X social media platform, formerly known as Twitter.

The Republican vice presidential nominee and Ohio senator claimed in an interview with YouTuber Shawn Ryan that a top EU official had threatened to arrest the billionaire if he allowed former President Donald Trump back on X.

“The leader, I forget exactly which official it was within the European Union, but sent Elon this threatening letter that basically said, ‘We’re going to arrest you if you platform Donald Trump,’ who, by the way, is the likely next president of the United States,” Vance said in the interview published last week.

Trump’s running mate then suggested that US support for NATO should be used as a cudgel to get the Europeans in line.

“So what America should be saying is, if NATO wants us to continue supporting them and NATO wants us to continue to be a good participant in this military alliance, why don’t you respect American values and respect free speech?” Vance asked. “It’s insane that we would support a military alliance if that military alliance isn’t going to be pro-free speech. I think we can do both. But we’ve got to say American power comes with certain strings attached. One of those is respect free speech, especially in our European allies.”

More at: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...lon-musk-x-twitter-donald-trump-b2614525.html

 

[PAF]

- Donald Trump: “Twenty-three of the 28 nations are still not paying what they should be paying." As part of its efforts to respond to Trump’s demand to do more to fight terrorism, NATO will also set up a counter-terrorism intelligence cell to improve information-sharing.

- Secretary General Thanks President Trump For His Commitment To NATO
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg thanked US President Donald Trump for his strong leadership and commitment to the Alliance in a meeting at the White House on Thursday (14 November 2019). Mr. Stoltenberg highlighted rising defence investment across European Allies and Canada, amounting to more than $100 billion extra in recent years, adding that Allies are determined to keep up the momentum.

 

[Swordsmyth]

- Donald Trump: “Twenty-three of the 28 nations are still not paying what they should be paying." As part of its efforts to respond to Trump’s demand to do more to fight terrorism, NATO will also set up a counter-terrorism intelligence cell to improve information-sharing.

- Secretary General Thanks President Trump For His Commitment To NATO
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg thanked US President Donald Trump for his strong leadership and commitment to the Alliance in a meeting at the White House on Thursday (14 November 2019). Mr. Stoltenberg highlighted rising defence investment across European Allies and Canada, amounting to more than $100 billion extra in recent years, adding that Allies are determined to keep up the momentum.

Trump wants Europe to pay for its own defense, that will make it easier to leave NATO without people screaming he's a Russian puppet abandoning Europe to Putin.
If they don't start paying for their own defense we will leave.

Vance is now setting up an ideological basis on which to leave NATO if they do start to pay for their own defense, just like I told you would happen.

 

[PAF]

Trump wants Europe to pay for its own defense, that will make it easier to leave NATO without people screaming he's a Russian puppet abandoning Europe to Putin.
If they don't start paying for their own defense we will leave.

Vance is now setting up an ideological basis on which to leave NATO if they do start to pay for their own defense, just like I told you would happen.

Ok. Sure.

if NATO wants us to continue supporting them and NATO wants us to continue to be a good participant in this military alliance, why don’t you respect American values and respect free speech?” Vance asked. “It’s insane that we would support a military alliance if that military alliance isn’t going to be pro-free speech. I think we can do both.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Ok. Sure.

Yeah, you quoted the part where Vance sets up the premise for leaving.
Europe is totalitarian and is not going to accept Free Speech or many other American principles.
He lit the fuse on us leaving.

 

[PAF]

Yeah, you quoted the part where Vance sets up the premise for leaving.
Europe is totalitarian and is not going to accept Free Speech or many other American principles.
He lit the fuse on us leaving.

The U.N. and WEF have similar/same goals.

Just because I'm the only one talking about it on this forum doesn't mean it's not true.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The U.N. and WEF have similar/same goals.

Just because I'm the only one talking about it on this forum doesn't mean it's not true.

And Trump is withdrawing us from them too.

 

[PAF]

And Trump is withdrawing us from them too.

Wha?????? His new administration is filled with them!

 

[unknown]

Didn't they say that last time, about NATO and the UN ?

 

[PAF]

Didn't they say that last time, about NATO and the UN ?

The way I see it he will actually strengthen them by utilizing WEF protocol, Crypto and via establishing a technocratic society. Follow the Money, his Donors, and the People who are in his new Administration.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The way I see it he will actually strengthen them by utilizing WEF protocol, Crypto and via establishing a technocratic society. Follow the Money, his Donors, and the People who are in his new Administration.

In your propagandistic fantasies.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Didn't they say that last time, about NATO and the UN ?

Yes, and Trump left the WHO, the Paris Climate Accord, and crippled the WTO, he was making progress on the others

 

[PAF]

In your propagandistic fantasies.

What propaganda?

The way I see it he will actually strengthen them by utilizing WEF protocol, Crypto and via establishing a technocratic society. Follow the Money, his Donors, and the People who are in his new Administration.

Yes, and Trump left the WHO, the Paris Climate Accord, and crippled the WTO, he was making progress on the others

Outdated models which are being replaced. It's called "Repeal and Replace".

See: Get Ready for the Republican Carbon Market for one example.

 

[TheTexan]

Anti-globalist policies are one of the things he generally delivered on in his last term.

Hopefully he delivers even more this time around

 

[Swordsmyth]

What propaganda?









Outdated models which are being replaced. It's called "Repeal and Replace".

See: Get Ready for the Republican Carbon Market for one example.

"What propaganda?" he asks while engaging in more.
Trump is not interested in replacing the globalist institutions he withdraws us from, nor did he ever or will he support carbon trading.

 

[69360]

I hope so and the UN too.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yeah, you quoted the part where Vance sets up the premise for leaving.
Europe is totalitarian and is not going to accept Free Speech or many other American principles.
He lit the fuse on us leaving.

German Vice Chancellor Habeck Demands More Censorship of Elon Musk’s X After Trump Victory

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...nsorship-of-elon-musks-x-after-trump-victory/

Say goodbye to NATO.