Value Voters Summit Straw Poll

Ugh this again. I remember the last 2 campaigns where everyone was told to dress up and act like christian conservative neocons, go to this and vote for Ron. Is that the deal again? The pretending to be a neocon thing didn't work for Rand, he should give it up already and just be himself, so should we.
 
People go just for the straw poll and this is probably more of social conservatives with some pro Israel undertones. So what Rand had his Stand With Israel Act to defund Hamas. We can say where are all the other candidates supporting this effort.

Students are only $50 if 21 or under.

These people need to see Rand and his supporters are not hostile to them.
 
This crowd is the low hanging fruit Rand absolutely needs to win over in order to win the nomination.
 
Ugh this again. I remember the last 2 campaigns where everyone was told to dress up and act like christian conservative neocons, go to this and vote for Ron. Is that the deal again? The pretending to be a neocon thing didn't work for Rand, he should give it up already and just be himself, so should we.

Your memory is terrible. This is not a neocon group. This is a socially conservative group. We can't beat the neocons without these people.
 
People go just for the straw poll and this is probably more of social conservatives with some pro Israel undertones.

Maybe. But notice that Israel is not mentioned anywhere in FRC's issues page. Every issue there is something where Rand is one of their most stalwart proven allies, certainly more than Trump.
http://www.frc.org/Issues
 
Your memory is terrible. This is not a neocon group. This is a socially conservative group. We can't beat the neocons without these people.

This, people are not realizing the neo-cons and the real ones not the averages joes that repeat what they hear will never support us. We need to get religious voters onboard with us by showing them government is the problem not free people. Too many people think Libertarians are about being able to use drugs etc. We need to show them that freedom allows us to reach unlimited potential.
 
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Your memory is terrible. This is not a neocon group. This is a socially conservative group. We can't beat the neocons without these people.

Meh, neocons and socons both support the AIPAC and endless wars in the middle east, same difference to me.

If you want to go and pretend to be something you aren't then have at it. It hasn't worked so far.
 
Meh, neocons and socons both support the AIPAC and endless wars in the middle east, same difference to me.

If you want to go and pretend to be something you aren't then have at it. It hasn't worked so far.

Rand is a socon and doesn't support endless wars in the Middle East.

Ron is a socon.

Pat Buchanan is a socon.

Chuck Baldwin is a socon.

Like I just showed you, if you check the issues page at frc.com there's no mention of Israel there.

How in the world is anyone supposed to win a Republican nomination without the support of either the war hawks or the social conservatives? It's hard enough losing one of those groups. But you can't lose both.
 
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This needs to be pushed big in the next few days, this straw poll if Rand doesn't win will push who ever wins either Cruz or Carson. The field may be some what split so a reasonable amount of supporters could win this.

We need to know from someone that has been before the voting timing too.
 
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Meh, neocons and socons both support the AIPAC and endless wars in the middle east, same difference to me.

If you want to go and pretend to be something you aren't then have at it. It hasn't worked so far.

I guess you've never heard of the Constitution Party, John Birch Society, Pat Buchanan, etc.
 
Friday September 25th
Straw Poll Voting - West Registration and Exhibit Hall 12:00-7:45 PM
Saturday September 26th
Straw Poll Voting - West Registration and Exhibit Hall 7:00 AM-12:00 PM
Tickets are $50 for students 21 and under (You may also be able to get a scholarship)
One day tickets are $75

Register here!
 
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This will be very close as I could see Cruz losing votes to Trump and Carson. The field will be very close.

This going to be decided by a handful of voters and each vote is worth plenty of free media coverage. Rand needs to get more social conservatives in Iowa and this is a good starting point and critical for defeating the national polling average narrative.
 
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